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[–]reluctant_commenter 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Ugh. Disappointing but not surprising. As per usual, corporate interests win out. Anyone who thinks that it's just Democrats and not Republicans who promote transgender ideology is badly mistaken.

edit: typo

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Republicans will deny it, but they are definitely complicit in this. The Republican dominated state of South Dakota failed to pass a law banning the transing of children, because there were too many cowardly lawmakers. In fact, there are many examples of Republicans grabbing ankles for TRAs despite being opposed to homosexuality:

  1. Military service. Most Republican congressmen voted against repealing don’t ask don’t tell in 2010. In 2011, before the repeal came into effect, there were a lot of Republicans who attempted to delay the repeal and keep DADT in effect for as long as possible, until the Supreme Court struck DADT down as unconstitutional. DADT was repealed and homosexual and bisexual soldiers, sailors, coast guards, airmen and marines could finally come out of the closet and still keep their jobs. But even after that, many Republicans were whinging that DADT was gone and wanted to reinstate it. However, when Trump announced in 2017 that transsexuals were not allowed in the military, most Republican congressmen were shocked and criticised Trump over this.
  2. Pat Robertson has been opposed to homosexuality and called it a choice, but recently declared his support for transsexuality, calling it "natural". What? Being trans is a choice, but being gay is natural. I will never understand people like Pat Robertson.
  3. There are cases of Republican-supporting homophobic parents who want to turn their gay children trans.
  4. I don’t know what Alex Jones' stance on homosexuality, but he was caught looking at T-girl porn.

Now, there are a lot of Republicans who support gay rights. Some Republican congressmen voted for repealing Don’t Ask Don’t Tell in 2010, and a growing number of Republicans now support gay marriage. But it took a lot of Republicans many years or even decades to come around to supporting gay rights, while most of them supported trans rights as soon as they first heard that sex changes can happen. TRAs would tell you that the GOP are transphobic because Trump was less supportive than the average Republican, but Trump is an exception to the rule.

[–]BEB[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

OMG - Alex Jones looks at transgender porn?!?!? Is this well-known?

I met Jones once, when he was only starting to get famous. What a fatuous corrupt blowhard, even then.

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He poisons the well of every movement he attaches himself to by acting like a nutcase. Him being a nutcase was what made him hilarious at first, until he started to get involved in politics. Now he drags people down. If you have a movement going about, do not let Alex Jones get involved. He will make your movement look bad, like how TRAs, intersectionalists and radical queer activists make the gay community look bad.

What was Alex Jones like when you met him?

[–]BEB[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He needed me so he was very accommodating. He was energetic, loud, a hustler - like a carnival barker. He seemed passionate about the cause he was espousing, which I soon realized was a front - he was just goading people who were sincere believers into doing things that would make him money.

That being said, I don't think he was as bad then as he is now. And I would never have guessed that he would become the influential figure he is today - he just seemed like one of many fringe nutcase leaders.

[–]usehername 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Alex Jones bullied someone I know until suicide because he lost his son in the Sandy Hook shooting, which Alex thought was a hoax.

[–]BEB[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I am so sorry! My condolences to you and to the family. How absolutely terrible.

I guarantee Alex doesn't think Sandy Hook was a hoax: he's just riling up the stupid and the paranoid in order to make money.

IIRC in a court case Jones himself said that he spouts fake news (I'm paraphrasing). It could have been in his divorce?

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Alex Jones knows that a lot of people don’t trust the legacy media. He takes full advantage of this by telling lies to people and taking advantage of them so he can make money. I don’t trust the legacy media. I don’t trust RTÉ, BBC, CNN, Fox News or the New York Times. I also don’t trust Alex Jones, Steven Crowder or the Rebel Media, because they are scoundrels.

[–]usehername 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed. In the U.S., legacy media often has substantial criticism about the other party (two-party system, so news will be biased toward one party or another), but then throws in a ridiculous non-solution from their side. Example: Fox News is complaining about how instead of improving under-funded public schools in poor areas, Democrats want to implement a "woke" curriculum. This is true and must be addressed. Then, Fox News says the solution is government-funded charter schools. So really, nobody wants to improve the public school situation, but there was a kernel of truth to the criticism of the other party.

This is usually how it goes, but there is also another tactic, perfected by Roger Stone in the Nixon era. Blatant, ridiculous lies about one's opponent ("FBI proves Hillary Clinton is a baby-eating Satanist"), and mockery and hatred towards them ("What has two fat thighs and small breasts?", "Kill Hillary") I'm not mentioning this because I'm a fan of Hillary (I wasn't even old enough to vote in that election), but this is the preferred type of propaganda being dissipated informally (through social media shills and the like), while the more respectable type is used by the news. The news also uses lies and personal attacks, but it's less blatant.

TRAs use both tactics.

[–]BEB[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah- the legacy media has dug its own grave. In the US, the run up to Iraq War II was a turning point for many. I predict the nonstop lies about gender ideology will cause the next huge drop off in faith in media.

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I heard about that. Alex Jones is a wicked human being for doing that to a father who’s lost his son. Yet people still listen to this scoundrel.

Also, I’m sorry to hear about your loss.

[–]BEB[S] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The Republican Fairness For All Act is the Equality Act for Jesusland and carves out religious exemptions, but still forces us to believe in Genderology:

https://twitter.com/boysvswomen/status/1365422467016228866

The Unfairness of the Misnamed 'Fairness For All' Act July 2020 https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3659573

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I can see why so many Americans don’t vote. Both parties are compromised. Both are scared of saying no to TRAs.

[–]usehername 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

When we do, we get bitched out when the one we voted for sucks. I knew he would, I just thought he was better than the other guy.

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I hate it when people say "if you don’t vote you don’t have a right to complain". I used to have this mentality until recently, when I learned a harsh lesson about democracy. What is the point in voting when all of the candidates suck? Okay, maybe you can just vote in the primaries that are held months ahead of the vote to ensure that a good politician gets nominated as the candidate by the party. But if shitty candidates get nominated by all of the major parties, then there is simply no point in turning up on Election Day. Especially when the legacy media and the missing link media pick and choose which candidates get the spotlight, allowing them to rig the primaries. Let’s not forget that, in America, third parties are either ignored or are complete jokes. But I hear so many American boomers dismiss these concerns by saying that you should just buck up if you didn’t vote, as if voting would fix the system. It won’t.

In Ireland, we don’t have primaries. Instead, you can just register to run for a local, a European or a parliamentary election as either a political party member or as an independent. We have multiseat constituencies, so there’s no limit to how many candidates a party can run in one constituency. We also use a complicated voting system called Single Transfer Vote, or STV. You rank the candidates on the voting card in order of preference. There is a quota that each candidate needs to reach in terms of votes he or she has one in order to get elected, and a recount is done until all seats in the constituency has been filled, or until no counts can be done, in which case the candidates with the most votes win. In a recount, the candidate with the least amount of votes gets eliminated, and the next preferences of those who voted for him will be transferred to the remaining candidates in the next count. Sounds like a better system than America’s? Not really. Because the Irish media can still ignore and deny coverage to minor political parties that they don’t like to prevent these parties from winning a seat in the election. Many Irish people vote for parties based on who their parents voted for without even looking at the candidate's policies. Politicians lie and shamelessly break promises. The media covers the asses of corrupt politicians. And because of our voting system, an unpopular candidate can still get elected if he runs in a 5-seat constituency against candidates from minor or unheard of parties or other unpopular candidates. I voted in the 2016 and 2020 elections. It looks like I won’t be voting again.

EDIT: all of the major political parties in Ireland are woke. The only parties that are against woke culture are Aontú, the National Party, the Irish Freedom Party, Renua Ireland and Anti-Corruption Ireland. They all ran candidates in the last election, and only one of them got elected - because he was already in our parliament and formed a new party after being expelled from one of the major parties.

[–]usehername 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

But I hear so many American boomers dismiss these concerns by saying that you should just buck up if you didn’t vote, as if voting would fix the system. It won’t.

Accurate.

Okay, maybe you can just vote in the primaries that are held months ahead of the vote to ensure that a good politician gets nominated as the candidate by the party.

I just became old enough to vote, and did vote in the primaries, but my candidate didn't have as much funding as the others and lost. Obviously, Biden won. He's extremely well funded, and has donors in the healthcare industry, especially pharmaceuticals (clear link with trans). If you don't know about the Citizens United court case, I encourage you to watch this six-minute video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lz7xJn8X8fE

Basically, corporations can donate infinite amounts of money to political campaigns through a loophole.

Politicians lie and shamelessly break promises.

Same in the U.S.

Because the Irish media can still ignore and deny coverage to minor political parties that they don’t like to prevent these parties from winning a seat in the election.

By what mechanism? Do parties pay for their own ads, and can't always afford it? Do certain broadcasters refuse to run ads for certain parties? Are political ads not a big part of Irish politics (they're huge in the U.S., can't escape 'em)? Does the news refuse to cover certain parties because they're paid by larger parties?

How big of a factor is money in Irish elections?

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Much like in America, we have lobbyists in Ireland in the forms of corporations, trade unions and NGOs. That is how the news is able to pretend that smaller parties don’t exist. Furthermore, most of the Irish media is controlled by the government, so the dominant parties can use the media to cheat in elections.

[–]usehername 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Very similar except state-run media? What a fucking crock. I understand them having a station, but controlling most of the media? The situation sounds worse than I thought.

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And most of the independent media is run by this man called Denis O'Brien. Who loves suing people.

[–]usehername 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Didn't he sell?

[–]PassionateIntensity 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

If Republicans really were against this shit they could have made so much public spectacle and gained so many votes. Instead they kept mostly silent. IMO it's because the money is too good and at base all politicians are whores.

[–]BEB[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I agree about the money and all politicians being whores.

And honestly, I think there's some compromat (sp? I mean compromising material) on Trump and/or some powerful GOP politicians, like them dressed in women's clothing.

I'll take bets some GOP pols are autogynephiles, a good % of whom, IIRC, tend to actually fall on the conservative side of the political spectrum.

Also, it's not as if the Republicans LIKE women or gays so why would they care if the Equality Act passes?

That being said I think a lot of GOP lawmakers were terrified to be called LGBTQ+ phobic, and a lot also didn't bother to pay much attention to what was actually in the Equality Act.

Democrats too, but the fact that not one Dem has stepped forward to buck the Equality Act tells you just how much power the "I just wanna pee" crowd has.

[–]usehername 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Also, it's not as if the Republicans LIKE women or gays so why would they care if the Equality Act passes?

Virtue signaling.

[–]BEB[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was actually trying to make the point that many Republicans don't care about the destruction that the Equality Act wreaks on women and gays. They don't. All many Republicans care about is that some of their religious voters might be angry.

However, I do think that some Republican politicians, especially women, are genuinely horrified that the Equality Act will allow ANY man to self-identify as a woman and access spaces where women AND often children are naked or otherwise vulnerable.

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Trump being a crossdresser? I don’t mind that, but it is still a weird thing to do. Then again, Trump is quite a weird person. Who enjoys being spanked. And possibly enjoys getting urinated on. Which begs the question: why would someone like Nick Fuentes support Trump? Oh yeah, because Fuentes either does not believe that Trump is into golden showers, or maybe he doesn’t mind, because Fuentes is into catboys.

I heard that Abraham Lincoln was also a crossdressor. Was that true?

[–]BEB[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I seem to remember that there are credible theories that Lincoln had same-sex relationships - do a search and you might find something, but the cross-dresser part I have not heard.

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I heard about him being bisexual, and getting depressed when his boyfriend got married.