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[–]sleepless-dreamer 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I regret giving them donations in the past. The fact that they even used the phrase "cotton ceiling" is disgusting.

[–]NonimeTired of Explaining Reality to Fuckwits (TERF) 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I donated to ACLU before they went insane. Funny how I went from loving an organization to hating it.

[–]panderichthys 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Should've just focused on abortions for victims of rape and STD treatments. They really should have shut their trap on everything else

[–]reluctant_commenter 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yep, this was a real event. It happened in 2012. (Maybe it has been repeated since?)

See comments for sanity. At least people realized how crazy this was even back in 2012.

Text of Facebook post:

In January of 2012, Planned Parenthood Toronto, in partnership with other local progressive organizations, ran a conference called No More Apologies as part of our programming for LGBTQ women. The conference was designed to bring queer cisgender and transgender women together to talk about the issue of queer trans women’s exclusion from broader LGBTQ women’s communities and how this exclusion relates to sexual health. The event was a success, bringing together over 100 cis and trans queer women who were excited to be starting these conversations and who expressed the desire for more information and workshops. Based on that feedback, when planning the full day Pleasure and Possibilities conference on LGBTQ women’s sexual health, PPT invited Morgan Page to facilitate a workshop for queer trans women on sexual health and social exclusion. We are pleased that Morgan accepted our invitation and feel that her workshop will further address issues raised at the No More Apologies event.
The purpose of the workshop “Overcoming the Cotton Ceiling: Breaking Down Sexual Barriers for Queer Trans Women” is to draw attention to the ways in which trans women are socially constructed as undesirable, and are denied full participation in queer women’s communities. Stigma and social exclusion can have immense impacts on the health and well-being of all marginalized people, trans women included. PPT’s mandate is one of equity; as such, we strongly stand behind queer trans women’s right to participate as full members of LGBTQ communities, and are committed to promoting and upholding trans women’s sexual health and well-being. Our programming for LGBTQ women serves all women who have sex with women (WSW), and since trans women are women, we provide programming that addresses the needs of the lesbian, bisexual, pansexual, and queer-identified trans women in our community.
The issue of sexual consent is absolutely paramount at our organization. We believe that all people have the right to say “no” to sex and to exercise other forms of control over their bodies. The workshop does not and was never intended to advocate or promote overcoming any individual woman’s objections to sexual activity. Instead, this workshop explores the ways in which ideologies of transphobia and transmisogyny impact sexual desire.
The sexual health and well-being of LGBTQ women are incredibly important to all of us, and the Pleasure and Possibilities conference is one way that PPT is taking action to provide spaces and resources to support LGBTQ women’s communities. -Sarah Hobbs, Executive Director of Planned Parenthood Toronto

This nonprofit group is teaching men to rape. I wish that statement were an exaggeration, but it's not.

[–]our_team_is_winning[S] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for that info!

They keep saying "our programming" -- not sure if they see the irony there? Because that is some serious "programming" for sure!

to draw attention to the ways in which trans women are socially constructed as undesirable

That screams incel. It's MRA and incel language to moan about men who are "undesirable" to women.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

can someone please help me archive this

Ah, it was you. Done, see my separate comment.

[–]julesburm1891 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Much like the ACLU, Planned Parenthood has chucked its original intentions in the garbage and set it on fire.

[–]censorshipment 13 insightful - 7 fun13 insightful - 6 fun14 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Eh, my mom told me the Planned Parenthood founder was a racist white woman many years ago. Not surprised that the organization supports homophobia too.

https://nypost.com/2020/07/22/planned-parenthood-finally-admits-that-its-founder-was-a-horrific-bigot/

[–]LilianH 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The person that ran it now works for Stonewall in the UK.

[–]Virginia_Plain 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A lot of the stuff we are talking about on this sub no doubt got its start here. Or more accurately this event was a place where the strategy was prototyped, of recasting denial of sex as part of a "spectrum of prejudice" ranging from subconscious aversion to overt violence.

[–]dreamgermsbisexual nightmare 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is beyond disgusting. The verbal gymnastics they went through to defend this shit is laughable. At least most of the comments beneath are lesbians calling them out. Incredibly sad to see Planned Parenthood engage in this rape rhetoric. What is happening to this country???

[–]RealCubeDreamer 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They'll never see another dime of my money. I don't forgive organizations that accepted the free help of lesbians for decades, then turn around and make bank off of pushing rape rhetoric against us. Fuck you, PP.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Could have sworn someone /u/reluctant_commenter had a question on this thread about not being able to archive the FB post (that tends to be difficult in my experience), so I screen-capped it and then archived that.

  1. https://imgur.com/a/dFZZVyn
  2. https://archive.ph/rfzx9

[–]reluctant_commenter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you!!! Much appreciated :) :)

[–]PassionateIntensity 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, it's real, but it happened 9 years ago. That's how long this shit has been percolating. Hosted by a transbian porn star who still couldn't get lesbians to fuck him if they were paid.