LesbianIt's almost like there are two different kinds of nonbinary people

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[–][deleted] 39 insightful - 34 fun39 insightful - 33 fun40 insightful - 34 fun -  (1 child)

"enbyphobic"

Oh, for the love of god.

[–]winterwillow[S] 36 insightful - 3 fun36 insightful - 2 fun37 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Trying to not post all insanity going on at AL but posts like these are so telling for the confusion and mixed messages young lesbians are facing trying to be actually homosexual while women they're attracted to identify as nonbinary and men they're not attracted to identify as lesbians.

One commenter even claims "none of the senses humans possess can perceive gender others were assigned at birth. It’s therefore impossible to be attracted or not attracted to them based on it." The same person later go on to insist that there are "nonbinaries assigned male at birth who have vaginas." Considering the number of transbians with girldicks, I highly doubt it.

[–]TransspeciesUnicornI sexually identify as a mythical sparkly equine 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

One commenter even claims "none of the senses humans possess can perceive gender others were assigned at birth. It’s therefore impossible to be attracted or not attracted to them based on it."

Critics of Gender Ideology generally claim that people are attracted to each other based on sex and not "gender identity" because someone's internal sense of "gender" isn't really perceivable by others. They're just taking that claim and twisting it around. Taking other people's ideas and arguments and twisting it around seems to constitute like 80% of TRA's "arguments".

[–]latuspodSuper Straight 27 insightful - 5 fun27 insightful - 4 fun28 insightful - 5 fun -  (7 children)

Better question is, is there anyone besides a non binary person who wants to date a non binary person?

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 26 insightful - 6 fun26 insightful - 5 fun27 insightful - 6 fun -  (4 children)

It's usually the opposite sex, which only contributes to the idea that non-binaries are just spicy straights

[–]lavender_menace 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Wait! Aren’t they?

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They are, but don't let them catch you saying that ;)

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 16 insightful - 5 fun16 insightful - 4 fun17 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Virtue signallers?

[–]chandra 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I know right, seems like way too much work. I would quickly get bored listening to him droning on about his gender identity, and expecting me to explain the whole thing to my friends and family when they 'misgender' him even if he's not around. And presumably all his friends are the same way. No thanks.

Obviously no non binary guy would want to date me either, though, because me not believing in his identity/religion would probably be a pretty big deal breaker.

[–][deleted] 25 insightful - 3 fun25 insightful - 2 fun26 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

AL is such a cesspool of lesbophobia it practically makes me breakout in hives.

[–]chandra 17 insightful - 6 fun17 insightful - 5 fun18 insightful - 6 fun -  (2 children)

none of the senses humans possess can perceive gender others were assigned at birth. It’s therefore impossible to be attracted or not attracted to them based on it.

It's a wonder humans ever managed to reproduce at all considering it's apparently a total crapshoot whether a person you're interacting with is male or female.

Just because a small handful of trans people successfully pass, that doesn't mean that we suddenly can't tell males from females, it just means that our ability to do so can be deceived (and only at great effort and expense, and only by those lucky enough to have a body amenable to passing to begin with). Like, you can create a convincing 3D illusion on the ground, but that doesn't mean I don't generally have the ability to perceive depth.

Obviously TRAs need this bullshit to be true, but I can never tell whether they've actually made themselves truly believe it or whether it's just gaslighting.

[–]Rosefield 11 insightful - 7 fun11 insightful - 6 fun12 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

100.000 years ago Grugg didn't know if either Gruggine or Gronkk was the female. People back then and even our ape-ish ancestors had no way of telling the sexes apart. In fact biological sex is an invention of the terf goddess JK Rowling

[–]julesburm1891 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Just because a small handful of trans people pass, that doesn’t mean that we suddenly can’t tell males from females.

This is the TRA argument I don’t get. Let’s be very generous and say trans people account for 1% of the population and 20% of them pass. So, they’re saying that because 0.2% of the population can pass as the opposite sex while clothed, the whole of humanity can’t tell the difference between sexes? (Personally, I think a more realistic figure would be 0.6% of the population with 5% passing for a grand total of 0.03% of the population passing, but whatever.)

Also, if we can’t differentiate the sexes, what are trans people playing at taking cross-sex hormones and having multiple cosmetic surgeries? Surely they can’t be mimicking the features of the opposite sex because how could you possibly tell the difference?

[–]loveSloaneSuperDuperBi 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It’s crazy how things have flipped. We now live in a world where people who claim to be lgb are the ones pressuring homosexuals to be with people of the opposite sex. It’s insane.

[–]censorshipment 10 insightful - 6 fun10 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

She (I assume) should've asked us at https://www.reddit.com/r/AskLesbians ...we can't be blatantly "transphobic", but the one active mod is quite lenient.

Someone asked what the meaning of lesbian is, and I answered...

(Me) Imo, a lesbian is a woman/girl who is only attracted to women/girls... and has never been attracted to men/boys. Exclusive attraction. If she's been attracted to one guy, she's bi bi bi.

(OP) But there's non-binary lesbians too.

(Me) Maybe one day I'll meet one. In the 24 years I've been out and dating, I've never heard any woman say she was nonbinary.

[–]MyLongestJourney 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The narcissist idea that if anyone rejects you as a potential partner,they are discriminating against you! I hope they never get laid.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

it's almost as they're speaking chinese

[–]julesburm1891 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I literally know only three words in Mandarin, yet overhearing conversations in it is more comprehensible than that thread.

[–]JoeyJoeJoe 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Jamie Shupe, the inventor of non-binary genders, what a legend!

[–]AnokiFrench 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It’s just a trend people use to stay relevant or to be special