Women's IssuesTRAs triggered by women's privacy and safety being considered ahead of their feelz shocker

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[–]julesburm1891 40 insightful - 4 fun40 insightful - 3 fun41 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

  1. Flipping out because women want women’s bathrooms and framing that freakout as an LGBTQ issue is a sure fire way to make people think we’re even more insane than they already do.
  2. My favorite part of this article is where they claim there’s no proof that women need women-only toilets while simultaneously insisting, without proof, that gender specials need gender neutral toilets.
  3. It was kind of hilarious that they’re acting like single-sex toilets are some crazy new idea. They do know they’ve been the status quo in the western world for the past century, right?

[–]Uranian[S] 25 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 0 fun26 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's quite clear that the issue is not having somewhere to pee because this allows for that, it's about colonising women-only spaces for whatever personal reason (and judging by the videos of transwomen wanking in women's toilets, we can only guess...)

[–]julesburm1891 22 insightful - 3 fun22 insightful - 2 fun23 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

For sure. If this was really about people being able to pee in a bathroom that corresponds with their “gender”, TRAs would’ve left it at transwomen in the women’s room and non-binaries in a third option loo. Instead they’re demanding that the men’s room stay for men and the women’s room be for everyone. The fact that they’re willing to “invalidate” transwomen by allowing every Tom, Dick, and Harry into the women’s room makes it quite clear this is about bullying women not gender validation.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They don’t want to go into the men’s room. Most men don’t play.

[–]MyLongestJourney 34 insightful - 1 fun34 insightful - 0 fun35 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Another victory for the UK women thanks to the efforts of a handful of brave feminist activists.As for the alleged lack of evidence there was one study that showed that the majority of assaults took place in unisex spaces.Somebody should rub it to the Penis News editorial team face,really slowly.

By the way although the 2010 equality act protects gender reassignment,it does state clearly that exceptions can be made when necessary.Somebody should rub this to their face as well.

[–]Uranian[S] 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

They're always claiming gender identity is a protected characteristic, but it isn't.

[–]usehername 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Lucky. It is in the U.S.

[–]Uranian[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is what you get when you vote in a bunch of bandwagon-jumping virtue-signallers alas

[–]usehername 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We continue to drop the ball in the primaries (the vote that decides who will be the official Democratic and Republican candidates) every year, then we have to pick between two piles of shit.

[–]GConly 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

one study that showed that the majority of assaults took place in unisex spaces.

It was in unisex changing rooms. 90% of sexual assaults in leisure facilities happened in unisex facilities.

There was also a nasty case where a transwoman called Katie Dolatowski tried to rape a little girl in the ladies loos in Scotland.

[–][deleted] 26 insightful - 3 fun26 insightful - 2 fun27 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

I've never understood why the TRA stance is muddling the idea of sexed bathrooms altogether instead of just having a 3rd option. Men's, women's, and a gender neutral option for people who don't feel comfortable or fit into either. Bing bang boom. And I think the majority of the public would be able to sympathize and get behind that idea too, instead of whatever the fuck this is.

[–]Aaran 27 insightful - 3 fun27 insightful - 2 fun28 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

"You're telling me I should use a third room instead of the ladies' room, are you saying I'm not a real women?"
That's why TRA don't want a 3rd option. It's about validation. If they just wanted to pee, but weren't comfortable in men's bathroom, then a third option would've been a good compromise.

[–]divingrightintowork 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

"What happened to just wanting to pee safely, mate?"

[–]filbs111 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The practical issue is that switching from a men's and a ladies' room to a men's and a whatevers' room just involves installing a new sign. The other option is more expensive.

[–]GConly 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That is what I was saying for the past two years, almost to the word.

Great minds etc.

The tra goal was to force entry into women only spaces. Because they get aroused better if everyone is forced to play along with their fantasies.

You notice how no one gave a crap about the HSTS in the ladies? Because we knew they behaved.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Ok, but I'm still confused that single person restrooms get marked as for one sex or the other. Like, if only one person will ever be in there, does it really matter who? The only difference is that one usually has a urinal while the other doesn't. And then there are places that only have one toilet in the building in the form of the all-accessible restroom. It should only really matter when several people may be in the restroom at the same time

[–]Uranian[S] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I guess, given women's particular needs, a women's single cubicle toilet might need waste disposal for sanitary products and perhaps a sink internal to the cubicle to allow handwashing after dealing with said sanitary products. They could, of course, put them in both but that might not be easy when one cubicle is smaller than the other for instance.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, I'm not talking about bathrooms with any cubicles in them, but a small room with a wheelchair accessible toilet, a sink, baby changing station, and other assorted items to include trash, sanitary waste, and sometimes a urinal. They're often labeled as "Family restrooms" when there's only one or it is separate from two larger, segregated restrooms. Yet if a place has two of these functionally unisex family restrooms, they insist on segregating them. Since only one person is ever in there, the urinal is pointless, so any waste disposal can take that spot, and then they'd be identical besides some decoration that is often exclusive to the female restrooms

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I’ve been to places in Ireland with single- occupancy toilets, and until recently all of them were for one sex only. For instance, a restaurant would have two rooms, each of them with a toilet, a sink, a mirror, a toilet paper dispenser, a hand dryer, soap, a light, a lock for the door... the usual. And one of them would be for men only, and the other one would only be for women. The logic behind this is that women need to pee more often than men.

When I was in Portugal with my family 17 years ago, we’d go to restaurants with single occupancy toilets, except the women’s had a bidet (according to my sister) while the men’s had a urinal.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The way I've seen it in Australia, it's usually single occupancy for men, the other for women and disabled people, even though it means disabled men somehow can't use the men's one?

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

WTF? Are disabled men lesser men in Australia or something?

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They didn't want to make both disablility friendly because it would cost more, so they retrofit womens single occupancy bathrooms.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I feel sorry for disabled men in Australia.

[–]one1won 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

If I may, spy cams. Unisex bathrooms make it easier for fetishists to plant these. Dare you to search "spy cams in public bathroom". Not every woman wants to be internet wankfodder for strangers.

[–]ThiccDropkickGay 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Indeed, activists were quick to stress the lack of evidence around the so-called issue of gender-neutral restrooms and the struggles women allegedly face about them.

Has everyone honestly just forgotten why we have separate men’s and women’s bathrooms and change rooms in the first place?

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Smart move, UK. Stick to your guns on this one.

[–]GConly 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Indeed, activists were quick to stress the lack of evidence around the so-called issue of gender-neutral restrooms and the struggles women allegedly face about them.

You mean other than the sexual assaults on women enabled by this?

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"But nothing's stopping them from going in anyway???"

Yes, but women can still raise the alarm if a man DOES walk in, but if it was gender neutral, then they can't because they belong there.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So they are now upset about businesses having to install higher quality toilets?

The article doesn't explicitly say it but they are basically saying it was good to force costs on businesses to change to gender neutral toilets but now it's a huge deal to ask the businesses to upgrade to single stalls?

It's clear their framing is making it out to be that they would rather have worse quality communal toilets instead of better single stall rooms because why? They need to force people into socializing with them while trying to use the toilet?

This is like the dumb articles complaining that covid lockdown is worse for genderspecials because they can't force pepe to look at them while playing dress up.

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