LGB ErasureIt's transphobic to describe yourself as "same sex attracted", according to AskTransgender.

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[–]julesburm1891 48 insightful - 4 fun48 insightful - 3 fun49 insightful - 4 fun -  (44 children)

Replace ‘trans’ in trans woman with black or Asian or any other race and it’d be racist

It turns out neither black nor Asian women are men. They also don’t demand that I reorient my entire sexuality to revolve around them in ways that completely negate the biological, sexual, and social realities of being a lesbian.

[–][deleted] 44 insightful - 1 fun44 insightful - 0 fun45 insightful - 1 fun -  (37 children)

These racist keep conflating being a woman of another race to being a male pretending to be a woman. They just need to fuck all the way off with that racist bullshit.

[–]julesburm1891 29 insightful - 2 fun29 insightful - 1 fun30 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Agree. It’s super racist. It’s also the sexual equivalent of taking my petrol engine car to a diesel mechanic and bitching because she can’t fix it. I could whine and shout, “You wouldn’t say you can’t work on cars because they have a white or red paint job!” But, clumsily pretending a superficial feature is equivalent to the essence of the machine won’t magically make this mechanic be able to fix my car.

[–]Rag3 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Can they please keep Asian and black people out of their mouths please?! Ffs.

[–]strawberrycake 33 insightful - 4 fun33 insightful - 3 fun34 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

TRAs like comparing themselves to race only when it serves them and is convenient. Then when you question why a male can identify out of his sex but can’t be Korean, all of a sudden they’re totally different concepts with no relation and how dare you compare them. Even though race is MORE of a social construct than sex… In fact, he could literally become Korean through legal means.

[–]turtleduck23 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

that's what i don't get. you could have Japanese parents but if you were born and raised in Germany you would technically be considered German. yet, if you bring this up to TRA's that shout how you're an idot and that it's WAY more "complicated" than that, yet somehow a man growing out his hair and putting on a dress turns him into a woman. a few years ago a TRA woman tried to comparing dying your hair to transitioning saying "if you were born with brown hair but dye it blonde are you still a brunette? no, you're a blonde now just like a TW is now a woman!" and all i could think was "no, you will always be a burnette, you just dyed your hair, give it a month and your roots will show you"

[–]julesburm1891 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

if you were born with brown hair but dye it blonde are you still a brunette? no you’re a blonde now

This is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. You’d still be a brunette. But, I guess this is an apt comparison for transwomen. You’ve only made a temporary cosmetic change, but absolutely nothing about how your body works changed. It doesn’t fool anyone long term. People can often tell by looking at you. And, if an archeologist ever digs up your body in a 1000 years, they can tell how you really were.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The genes that cause different hair colors also come with other traits as well. It's pretty interesting. Blonde women for example tend to have higher estrogen levels than other women.

So yeah, dyeing hair doesn't change the genes that cause that hair color.

[–]DimDroog 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Racist and homophobia in one little neat package.

So GLAD I nuked my reddit account.

120,000 karma points gone, but who cares?

It's meaningless.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Replace ‘trans’ in trans woman with black or Asian or any other race and it’d be racist

Except sexual orientation is based on BIOLOGICAL SEX. Attraction to men, women, or both. Everything ELSE that we find attractive (or unattractive for that matter) is just narrowing this down-- what kinds of men and/or women are our "type". That's where stuff like ethnicity comes in (if it does). So it's really not the same thing at all. If trans-cultists are claiming that it is, where are all the people who are attracted first and foremost to "race"? To "Asian", "black", etc.? And pay little or no attention to someone's sex?

A lesbian not being attracted to "trans women" is functionally the same as a lesbian not being attracted to men regardless of race-- whether he's Asian, black, white, or whatever, she won't be into him, BECAUSE HE'S A MAN. Man who "identifies as a woman"? Same thing.

Seriously, these gender-zealots make me so mad I could spit nails...

[–]Criticallacitirc 32 insightful - 1 fun32 insightful - 0 fun33 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

They keep moving the goal posts and trying to take the words away for us to describe our sexual orientation. Gay & Lesbian used to be just fine, but they took those away because they now include the opposite sex. They're also trying to say homosexual is offensive because that's what conversion camps use, I thought they were all about reclaiming words ? Any words that clearly describe your orientation,that they can't shoe horn themselves into , they're trying to take away from us.

[–]Criticallacitirc 18 insightful - 6 fun18 insightful - 5 fun19 insightful - 6 fun -  (3 children)

I had to leave a comment. Expecting a ban momentarily lol

[–][deleted] 18 insightful - 7 fun18 insightful - 6 fun19 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

You're getting banned as I type this.

I literally JUST read your comments, and then opened another tab for the permalink so I could watch, and your comments are being removed.

[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Please share what you wrote, if you don't mind. Since they are not going to be visible for long.

[–]Criticallacitirc 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It was nothing noteworthy or insightful. Basically told them to fuck off because some people are exclusively same sex attracted & whining about it won't change anything. Got the typical response, "No one is saying you have to have sex with trans people " just you're a bigot if you don't. I'm so sick of these delusional gas lighters.

[–]TransspeciesUnicornI sexually identify as a mythical sparkly equine 27 insightful - 7 fun27 insightful - 6 fun28 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

At this point I will gladly call myself transphobic. The word's basically meaningless at this point anyway.

[–]odiusgay man 10 insightful - 8 fun10 insightful - 7 fun11 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

It means "apostate."

[–]loveSloaneSuperDuperBi 25 insightful - 9 fun25 insightful - 8 fun26 insightful - 9 fun -  (1 child)

I love how they always say we can’t know for sure what genitals someone has, as if any assumptions made about someone’s genitals wouldn’t be correct 99% of the time.

[–]usehername 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also as if the only difference between men and women is their genitals, instead of the truth where every single cell of the body is different.

[–][deleted] 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Same-sex attraction is a sin under the new religion. Same as with the old religion. Maybe one day we can do away with religions entirely.

[–]FediNetizenSuper-semi-bisexual (i.e. straight)[S] 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe one day we can do away with religions entirely.

Nietzsche says...probably not.

[–]reluctant_commenter 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Right??? This message, shaming same-sex attraction, sounds SO familiar to me, having grown up in a homophobic religion. Ugh.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 23 insightful - 6 fun23 insightful - 5 fun24 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

This is exactly where we are now, how far we have seceded language. I just saw in askgaybros some guy used the term “attraction to same sex” and he was accused off using a “heinous” dog whistle. So anyone he says same sex and not same gender attraction is dog whistling to terfs/Alt right/nazis/hitler himself.

[–]Dromedary 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These are desperate people living in a dream world. Desperate because reality doesn't comport with their fantasy of themselves, reality is painful. Reality is no one wants to fuck them, or at least most lesbians don't want to fuck TW. So they have to denigrate lesbians as being "genital fetishists" because in their fantasy world, there is absolutely no difference between cis women and TW. Ok, one difference- 95% of TW keep their cock and balls. Other than that, no difference! Sigh. Because they have tons of free time, being spectacularly unsuccessful sexually, these sorry sorts are extremely, constantly online, strictly consorting with others just like them and they all parrot and repeat mantras to each other in a vast echo chamber. They think that if they all say it enough it will change reality. Lesbians are transphobic because they are FIXATED on genitalia like a bunch of perverts! That's the only thing stopping them from dating we TW! Sigh again. I'm struck by how extremely MALE this whole way of thinking is. They're all in denial, and way too online to even see reality anymore. They don't want to see it.

(There are obviously trans men who hassle gay men with similar complaints, to gay men it's more of a laughable thing from deluded teen girls. I read way more of women being hassled, and I take it more seriously I suppose, I think it is. Deluded girls calling gays like me a fag bounces off, lol, but the male anger a lot of women seem to get from TWs is way more concerning and aggressive. )

[–]INeedSomeTimeAsexual Ally 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Damn how dare gay people be gay instead of forcing themselves to be pansexual to please these narcissts, who have no respect for people's boundaries.

[–]millicentfawcett 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I've been reading through those comments, horrified, and I'm thinking who are these people? Where did they come from? Then I realise that despite gains for LGB people in law over the past decades the sentiment that same sex attracted people are 'unnatural' just hasn't gone away has it? It's festered under the surface and turned into this nightmare.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah changes in law is one thing, changing how people feel about us is a long term project. They still don’t get us because the public face of us keeps changing. Now it’s all about gender. “Lgb are the ones concerned about gender”

[–]reluctant_commenter 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Then I realise that despite gains for LGB people in law over the past decades the sentiment that same sex attracted people are 'unnatural' just hasn't gone away has it? It's festered under the surface and turned into this nightmare.

EXACTLY!!! I mean, I think most of us here on this sub know this. But it is such a common belief among people my age (early 20s) that everything has all been fixed for LGB people, there are basically no homophobic people anymore except for a few Evangelical Christians off in a corner.

As if. I feel like I'm talking into a fucking void every time I try to tell people otherwise.

[–]JulienMayfair 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

A TRA on AGB today called same-sex attraction a "transphobic dog whistle."

Funny how 20 years ago, in academic essays, we used "same-sex attraction" as the proper terminology to avoid projecting terms like 'gay' and 'homosexual' back in time before those words or usages were coined.

[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm good with homosexual, gay, but not "genital preference" (an ugly phrase if there ever was one).

And I'm totally fine with being labeled "transphobic", fuck them all for continuing to shift goal posts like the narcissists that many TRAs are.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 5 insightful - 6 fun5 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

If you can hear the whistle, you're the dog.

[–]fuck_reddit 15 insightful - 6 fun15 insightful - 5 fun16 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

As samuel L. Jackson once famously said: “I don’t remember asking you a goddamn thing.”

[–]GayBoner 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Look at the upvotes and downvotes in that thread. Anytime a TRA says it’s just a minority of vocal TRAs making homophobic comments… they’re lying. It’s the majority and it’s the partyline stance that they’re pushing now. Current transgender ideology including “same-gender attracted” and “gender preference” are 100% homophobic.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 12 insightful - 10 fun12 insightful - 9 fun13 insightful - 10 fun -  (0 children)

It's transphobic to refuse to allow men pretending to be women to control the narrative. They are the most oppressed people on the planet, possibly in this galaxy or even the entire universe.

[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 8 fun13 insightful - 7 fun14 insightful - 8 fun -  (1 child)

Well when you have either a ballgina and/or such a repulsive personality these are the levels you have to stoop to in order to try and get laid.

A lesbian isn't going to be attracted to all types of women as it is, but to go to the extent of singling out one specific type of woman shows they may have an issue with that type in particular.

And? You're either an idiot, a virgin, a rapist, or some ungodly combination of the three if you think it's hateful for people to have types.

Homosexuality isn't the same as having a type, but even if it was it still wouldn't be an indication of bigotry if you don't wanna fuck someone for any reason.

[–]verystablegenius 8 insightful - 12 fun8 insightful - 11 fun9 insightful - 12 fun -  (0 children)

ballgina…..fucking lol

[–]Rosefield 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Blah blah blah...always the same homophobic horseshit. These people don't matter.

[–]usehername 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

crypto-TERF

“a person having a secret allegiance to a political creed”

They're convinced that it's not that their personal beliefs are completely contrary to science and common sense, it's that everyone who disagrees with them is openly or secretly in an organization designed to strip them of their rights and commit genocide against them.

[–]reluctant_commenter 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wonder if we could get a compilation going of all the social media posts and opinions piece that openly state, "Same sex attraction is bigoted/shameful" like this post does. I really think that would help with showing straight supporters of the LGBTQ+ movement how the LGBTQ+ movement is is actually hurting gay/bisexual people.