LGB HistorySylvia Rivera being heartily booed by gays and lesbians at 1973 gay rally (OMG - he's nuts...)

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[–]JulienMayfair 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

And this was why Gay Liberation in the early 70s wisely distanced itself from trans issues, but 20 years later, we had forgotten the lesson we learned.

[–]Rag3 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

How did they weasel their way back in, I wonder?

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The success of LGB lobby groups at getting horrible laws changed. They saw it, wanted it, and decided to infiltrate and piggy back.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Desperation from the AIDS crisis perhaps? A 'we need as much support/as many allies as possible' attitude?

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Via all the damn straight-fetishist "trans" people, and Queer Theorists, pushing this crackpot "gender identity" drivel. Which, I think, LGB individuals-- and especially organizations-- mistook for a critique of gender itself. And, because gender is the basis for our oppression as same-sex-attracted people, they welcomed all the gender-identity proponents in. Not realizing that this was the same old poison, just repackaged.

[–]usehername 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ideology and paraphilia.

Two of the world's most powerful motivators after food.

[–]BEB[S] 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Wow - this is a must see especially for all the 14-year-olds running around saying this madman is responsible for gay rights.

Here's more info on 70s' gay rights relationship w the T

https://www.reddit.com/r/askgaybros/comments/oawk9r/how_is_it_that_some_gays_and_lesbians_have_really/

[–]Dromedary 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's like watching a terrible screechy comedy character having an episode. No wonder they couldn't stand him. Of course he's wearing a thin jumpsuit so you can see his dick. What a state. Also funny, usually YouTubes automated CC subtitles are pretty good, but for this screed it was "Nee mlin nin ni blee bla o nib! De di dao de blee blom bloo! !djhias gyer huoszd, sdop zdij8!" :)

[–]SerpensInferna 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The comments on that thread are refreshing. I love to see the pushback.

[–]kwallio 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That whole thread...wow. The pushback is real. The trans apologists in there are getting a workout.

[–]Rag3 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I remember seeing this and I was disturbed. Also, the comment section is a mess.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 22 insightful - 4 fun22 insightful - 3 fun23 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

You weren’t joking about the comment section. Guess I’m a racist now, since I know that this crossdresser who went by the name of Sylvia Rivera has done absolutely nothing but tell lies and sleep on benches.

[–]JulienMayfair 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I saw a longer, later interview with Rivera, and he obviously had some flavor of personality disorder. I mean, Rivera was living on the street in some ramshackle shelter, no education, no skills, unemployable. How did such a complete fuck-up become a hero?

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How did such a complete fuck-up become a hero?

Simple: activists needed a reason to justify including TQ+ shite into the LGB rights umbrella, and so they completely fabricated an icon to help doing so.

Also, at this point, the Stonewall Riots aren't even a historic event anymore, but a creation myth.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

TRAs needed a hero, so they invented one. They just needed a template. Rivera was the perfect one, because he was known at the time for being a crossdresser.

[–]SerpensInferna 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Holy crap, that poor person was out of their mind and clearly needed professional help.

I am baffled that so many youtube comments are hailing Rivera as a true hero, so brave! and praising him to high heaven when he is a raving lunatic.

[–]DimDroog 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My mother was an "fg hag back in the 70s.

I grew up around LGB folks.

I never, ever saw a trans person.

They weren't there when men were dying of AIDS.

Didn't see them do anything for gay rights.

[–]usehername 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is the perfect time for me to repost this video Sylvia Rivera looking like a homeless drug addict under a bridge ranting about lesbians and telling lies about Stonewall. Guess he was too high to remember what really happened: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHMTSAJ9ykg