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[–][deleted] 49 insightful - 1 fun49 insightful - 0 fun50 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

There is no lesbian sexual community. It just doesn't exist. I'm sure in this guy's porn addled mind there must be some secret lesbian bathhouses he's not been invited to, but there aren't. And if there were all the women would bail out the moment a dick showed up.

Seriously, lesbians can't even keep lesbian bars or coffeeshops open and this dude expects us to have some kind of sexual community?

There's also no way that gay men actually want women in their bathhouses, it's something they tolerate because the alternative is getting shut down.

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    [–]automoderatorHuman-Exclusionary Radical Overlord[M] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

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    [–]Rosefield 41 insightful - 15 fun41 insightful - 14 fun42 insightful - 15 fun -  (1 child)

    Look at this filthy pot-bellied autogynephile pig. Disgusting. He can go fuck himself or other transbians. His smell and sight alone are going to make lesbians run away in horror.

    No lesbian pussy for you, sir.

    [–]serf_n_terfStraight Ally - Surf’s up! 🏄‍♀️ 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Pigs are less offensive than this troglodyte. I can smell the stench from here. 🤢

    [–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 30 insightful - 3 fun30 insightful - 2 fun31 insightful - 3 fun -  (16 children)

    Lies. You can’t even pay me to have sex with a trans identified female. Not even for a billion euros.

    [–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah[S] 20 insightful - 17 fun20 insightful - 16 fun21 insightful - 17 fun -  (5 children)

    Well, maybe for a billion Euros I could give it a go. Can't promise not to pull faces though.

    [–]julesburm1891 25 insightful - 16 fun25 insightful - 15 fun26 insightful - 16 fun -  (2 children)

    quietly contemplates sex with a delusional man to pettily give £1B to LGB Alliance

    If you do anything, do it for spite.

    [–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 16 insightful - 6 fun16 insightful - 5 fun17 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

    If you do anything, do it for spite.

    I want some wall art with that on.

    [–]julesburm1891 10 insightful - 7 fun10 insightful - 6 fun11 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

    Arthnold, with a Cricut machine and my basic white woman ways, I’m certain we could work out something.

    [–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 12 insightful - 12 fun12 insightful - 11 fun13 insightful - 12 fun -  (1 child)

    Can’t promise I won’t throw up all over the woman.

    [–]PatsyStoneMaverique 9 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

    Thank you for reminding me of this Terry skit from Reno 911.

    [–]Elvira95Viva la figa 16 insightful - 7 fun16 insightful - 6 fun17 insightful - 7 fun -  (4 children)

    Eh, I would fuck a trans for one billion lol

    [–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 14 insightful - 8 fun14 insightful - 7 fun15 insightful - 8 fun -  (1 child)

    Okay, maybe a billon, but there are only so many multi-billionaires and none of them don’t consider a gay man shagging a delusional woman worth a billion euros.

    [–]Elvira95Viva la figa 16 insightful - 10 fun16 insightful - 9 fun17 insightful - 10 fun -  (0 children)

    Your rationality is really hot. If you had a pussy I would be interested LMAO

    [–]Destresse🇨🇵 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

    How pragmatic 🤣

    [–]Elvira95Viva la figa 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    tout a un prix lol

    [–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    So I'm probably about a Kinsey 5.5. Like, last night my husband and I went to a party and there was a woman present whom I was legitimately intrigued by (husband and I are monogamous so we're just talking about my fantasy life here.) I identify as a gay man but the last time I mentioned this kind of thing you all jumped on top of me and told me I was bisexual. OK, whatever, other than very occasional fantasies my life is indistinguishable from that of a Kinsey 6.0 gay man.

    I would consider, out of curiosity, under the right circumstances, having sex with a trans man, but I would never be interested in an LTR with one (mostly because the fact of being a trans man is radically at odds with my core values). But I also don't think that any gay man is obligated under any circumstances to consider any trans man as part of their dating pool.

    Point is, sex is complicated and doesn't fully match up with social identity. I'm fine with that as long as you are not using your own experience as a way to coerce others into doing something they don't want to do.

    [–]hufflepuff-poet 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I would consider, out of curiosity, under the right circumstances, having sex with a trans man

    I understand this perspective and agree it's still homosexual, though I don't personally vibe with it. I think gay people could have sex with opposite sex partners and not be traumatized or disgusted, in a curious way, if we lived in a world where homosexuality was as normalized as heterosexuality.

    There are straight people who have had sex with same-sex partners and enjoyed it not necessarily in a mutual attraction way but more like curiosity of the "opposite sexuality" and "what it'd be like". It's more normalized for straight people and not as traumatic because it can be healthy exploration without as much shame because they can go back to heterosexuality. Gays and lesbians experience so much shame both internal and external around same-sex attraction and often force ourselves into opposite-sex encounters, so it's a more traumatic and complicated thing to navigate.

    [–]reluctant_commenter 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I think I get what you mean. I saw a conversation a while back on s/lesbians I think about how there seems to be a difference in the level of disgust that individual homosexual people feel about opposite-sex sexual experiences. E.g., some lesbian women feel somewhat grossed out, some feel very grossed out, by the idea of sleeping with a man, but some may have little to no feelings of repulsion, it just does nothing for them.

    I totally get why many LGB people want to be clear about the fact that opposite-sex attraction is not something a homosexual person experiences; some homophobic people try to deny that, and further deny that there are any homosexual (exclusively same sex attracted) people at all. However, I kinda wonder if this is a topic on which there just happen to be naturally-occurring differences among homosexual people, which might lead to some trouble understanding each other and relating to each other.

    [–]hufflepuff-poet 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yes! I think the degree of disgust with opposite sex partners varies based on each homosexual person's unique experience with their sexuality and past sexual experiences. I'm completely disgusted at the thought of being touched by a man ever again, it makes me recoil just thinking about it and it's partly due to my past sexual history with men and the shame and disgust I carry with me from those encounters. Whereas my ex had casual make-outs with men in her past and they weren't traumatic experiences for her, just not her cup of tea.

    This is why homosexuals need our own spaces,to discuss this and other complex issues without having to defend the basic definition of homosexuality.

    [–]Elvira95Viva la figa 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Complete kinsey 6 sexuality is quite rare anyway. And the almost total homo can be counted in the homo category for practical sake.

    [–]Virginia_Plain 23 insightful - 6 fun23 insightful - 5 fun24 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

    Always alternating between "why can't cis queers work through their transphobia?" and "the real question is who doesn't have trans partners LMAO???? Like, every cis dude I meet is inundated with trans/nb masc folx!"

    Edit: And another thing. More anecdotal than scientific, but for all the talk about trans people on Grinder taking up space or whatever...I use another similar app. I've lived in a few areas with large LGBT populations, and the FTM people who do show up on my grid (including a few I know IRL!) don't tend to stick around long. They stop showing up, while all the other profiles, even the obnoxious/hideous ones, are in it for the long haul. Make of that what you will. My personal approach is "do not interact" for trans people on hookup apps, so I doubt I've been blocked or something.

    [–]censorshipment 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

    I have seen a lot of amateur/homemade porn featuring men fucking women with beards and no tits... like thousands of videos would pop up of women identifying as men having sex with men. I used to watch the best homemade porn on xtube (2006-2021)... the site was recently dissolved on September 5th. RIP 😿

    I have honestly not seen many women having sex with men identifying as women in homemade porn. I've seen a lot of "MtF fucks FtM" porn, but it was "professional" porn with cameramen and whatnot. And of course Buck Angel fucked a lot of men in porn.

    Point is, based on the homemade porn I've watched in 15 years... men have been more sexually inclusive of women identifying as men than women have been of men identifying as women. IIRC, the cotton ceiling shit is even porn-related.

    The cotton ceiling is a theory proposed by trans porn star and activist Drew DeVeaux to explain the experiences queer trans women have with simultaneous social inclusion and sexual exclusion within the broader queer women’s communities. Basically, it means that cis queer women will be friends with us and talk day and night about trans rights and ending transmisogyny, but will still not consider us viable sexual partners.

    The term cotton ceiling is a reference to the “glass ceiling” that second wave feminist identified in the workforce, wherein women could only advance so high in the workforce but could not break through into positions of power and authority. The cotton represents underwear, signifying sex.

    [–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Point is, based on the homemade porn I've watched in 15 years... men have been more sexually inclusive of women identifying as men than women have been of men identifying as women.

    They're being paid to fuck FtMs, so there's no 'inclusion' happening there.

    A recent evaluation showed that trans content doesn't even account for 10% of overall porn searches made, which just goes to show how his shite is niche.

    [–]censorshipment 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I specified homemade/amateur porn, although I know uploaders can get paid nowadays, but not when I started watching porn on xtube.

    Unless you mean the "trans men" are directly paying men to fuck them...??

    I typically watch porn on xhamster... titles usually say something like "grindr date"... and the "trans men" are recording men fucking them in their bedrooms.

    [–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Oh, so that's another thing entirety.

    I'm just going to say one thing: there's men who'll fuck anything, and I mean anything, ao it's no wonder content like this is a thing.

    Also, Grindr is a clustefuck full of creepers, chasers, MtFs and now, FtMs. Nowdays I wouldn't even consider it a 'gay app' anymore.

    [–]Chipit 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    What? Xtube got cancelled? Noooooo...that site was the best for obscure porn. Two people doing the nasty filmed with a phone camera, 384 views. The best kind of porn.

    [–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    What? Xtube got cancelled?

    Remember the whole PornHub shit with unverified accounts uploading cp? That's the reason why xTube got nuked.

    The owners of the site didn't want to pay to implement an actual moderation system, so down it goes!

    [–]Chipit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I guess I'll have to go to foreign sites to get my fix. Any suggestions?

    [–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    PornHub is still a thing, even though is slowly dying, so that's something I guess.

    [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    That's the site which deleted all their content in the first place. Any other suggestions anyone?

    [–]Rosefield 3 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

    that site was the best for obscure porn.

    Yep, no other place had videos of Morlock underground orgies in 802,701 AD. Time Travel porn is the best.

    [–]censorshipment 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Lol don't know if you're being sarcastic, but I agree... popular videos with millions of views are rarely enticing enough for me.

    [–]Cass 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

    how can I smell it through my screen

    [–]shveya 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Armpits and stale cigarette butts?

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I hope he becomes a part of the 41%

    [–]serf_n_terfStraight Ally - Surf’s up! 🏄‍♀️ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Homophobic and revolting.