ColonizationIf gay men asserting the fact that they are gay makes you suicidal, your lack of dating options is the least of your problems

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[–]ThrowMeAway2879[S] 43 insightful - 3 fun43 insightful - 2 fun44 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I know you’re not attracted to vaginas now can you stop saying it because it makes me want to gut myself alive.

I have nothing against homosexuals, but they don't have to shove it down our throats all the time, do they? - Same energy.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 37 insightful - 1 fun37 insightful - 0 fun38 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

She needs to get off social media and go outside.

[–]hufflepuff-poet 18 insightful - 3 fun18 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

The simplest cure for all these folxs self-inflicted woes is going outside and touching some grass everytime they want to use social media.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I think some people should spend a week or two with the Amish to reset themselves mentally. Just to take a break from modernity. Don’t get me wrong, technological advancements are good, but we need to stop back from them every now and then just to remember that we are animals.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Technology is good, but the way we use it is entirely wrong. Instantaneous communication is invaluable for improving human life, but misuse of it with mass media and social media only leads to pain or trolling most of the time. But of course, even without a pandemic, our modern world has been built in such a way as to discourage real social interactions irl. If you don't organize something online, it doesn't really happen outside of school or work, which is also more increasingly online. Free public spaces are declining, it's more and more diffucult to find a good park or library to talk to real people in. Public spaces in general are becoming more road and parking lot and less human. This isn't the fault of technology, it's the culture that came about alongside technology.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The problem with the rapid advancement of technology is that we as humans have not advanced at the same pace, so we have not adapted properly to it. We need to take a break from the advancements in tech so we can have some time to adapt properly to it.

[–]Freetochoose 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Is this really sometihng one can do, in relation to the Amish? I find their culture interesting and the thought of volunteering has come across my mind.

[–]MBMayfair 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Just fyi, the Amish certainly aren't OK with gay people (don't know if you are or not), and their culture is extremely paternalistic and misogynistic. Not surprisingly, they also have quite the problem with sexual abuse. Don't let the homespun, we're-just-simple-folk facade fool you.

[–]Freetochoose 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for the information. It did cross my mind if they were ok with gay people.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

As long as you respect the Amish, they will respect you, at least I think so. I hear that young Amish men have to spend a year in the modern world as part of a right of passage to get a feel of modernity, many of them return to the Amish village because it’s the life they are used to.

[–]fuck_reddit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Might also face the problem that a lot of amish communities don’t use English. Many maintain german or dutch as a native tongue.

[–]MBMayfair 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, they learn English, but don't speak it amongst themselves. Instead, many of them speak Pennsylvania Dutch, which is unique to America, and despite the "Dutch" in the name is an offshoot of German.

[–]wendyokoopa1 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've actually traveled with some Amish and well yes part of that is true it's not totally the truth. I was seated in two separate buses with older ones on two separate occasions and both wanted their seat back and everytime you told them put your seat up you're crushing my knee. They just went right on back to attempting to sleep. The first time I decided to suffer because I didn't want to get kicked out of the states for conflict. Second time though? He wasn't sleeping till homestead. I forced his seat to the upright position. So the misnomer of they're fairly respectful is a partial misnomer. If you can't converse with outsiders unless during rumspringa then don't take outsider transportation. I should note older model Greyhound buses had about as much pitch(legroom) as Ryanair or united economy class. Or if you're inclined a 2015 Nissan micra.

[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not sure how easy it is to spend a week or two with the Amish. The closest I've ever gotten is buying canned beets in their grocery store. (They were good, a little on the sweet side.)

[–]spanishprofanity 26 insightful - 11 fun26 insightful - 10 fun27 insightful - 11 fun -  (3 children)

Reading through their comments is just pure, sweet schadenfreude

I'm gay but I feel really unwelcome in spaces with many cis gay guys. I don't give a shit if you don't like vaginas, you have every right to not like them, hell I don't like mine either, but just like it is an asshole move to say to a short guy "sorry, I don't date short guys," it's an asshole move to say to a trans guy "sorry, I don't date people with vaginas." And yeah, usually it's people with vaginas or just plain women, like boy, you transphobia is really shining through. They don't even make an effort.

If you want, I can say "sorry, I'm only attracted to men"

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 21 insightful - 4 fun21 insightful - 3 fun22 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Do that. Don't give an inch on this.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sounds like she is mad that gay men have "preferences", or a sexual orientation, as sane people call it. She wants all of us to want her vagina.

[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

But if you say "you're not my type" they'll pester you until you give them the real reason. Now you're the asshole.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 27 insightful - 4 fun27 insightful - 3 fun28 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

It's such an out-of-date idea that gay means "opposite sex" it means opposite gender. we need a new language for genital preference if it's even actually a thing.

And this one can't even figure out what the word should mean in the first place, before breaking it. And then goes on to question the innateness of sexual orientation, it appears, first by calling it a preference and then suggesting it doesn't exist. Move along, no homophobia ("Why don't they LIKE US???" /whine) to see here...

[–]CaptainMooseEx-Bathhouse Employee 20 insightful - 13 fun20 insightful - 12 fun21 insightful - 13 fun -  (2 children)

Mrbig_boi:

As a gay dude who dated both cis and trans men Personally i say trans guys are nicer and better Every cis guy i dated was kinda mean - straight up terrible every trans guy i dated was absolutely amazing i still miss my most recent trans ex Trans on trans relationships are top teir

Also Mrbig_boi:

Meow... FtM Catboy

Could it be entirely possible that every "transguy" you date is just endlessly validating while the "cis" men you date hold you accountable for your shit and that's why you think they are mean?

[–]spanishprofanity 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She's still has tits 😂🤮

[–]ThrowMeAway2879[S] 14 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Also Mrbig_boi: Meow... FtM Catboy

Glorious. But it's the men telling her that she doesn't pass that are the big meanies, not the fellow FTMs that blow smoke up her ass. (Also... note how she doesn't even claim that she dated "cis gay men", just "cis men".)

[–]JulienMayfair 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

gay men make me very dysphoric

Just the grammatical construction there reveals the problem. No, your dysphoria makes you dysphoric. Or maybe it's all the crazy ideas you absorbed from Tumblr or trans subreddits. It seems to be a feature of this generation that they are told to blame all their problems on someone else, as if the entire world is supposed to accommodate them.

I looked at the post history, and in photos, it's so obvious this person is female.

It's hard to be angry at this kid because, in the end, this is a kid who's been misled and sent down a path to misery. In the absence of that, maybe she would have had some rough teenage years and survived to become an adult able to deal with the real world. There's a reason why in the old protocols, transition was the treatment of last resort when nothing else worked for the treatment of dysphoria. It was never a great option.

[–]Rosefield 14 insightful - 13 fun14 insightful - 12 fun15 insightful - 13 fun -  (0 children)

Gay men: living their lives

Gaydens: REEEEEEE!

[–]CaptainMooseEx-Bathhouse Employee 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I can empathize with them if they have the sort of parents that refuse to let them have actual hobbies/interests so they are stuck living online after school, or who refuse to let them do age appropriate independent things like taking the bus or walking to a park, the mall, the library, etc.. I can empathize with them if they have the types of parents that micromanage them into only being friends with an approved list of classmates who are just as socially awkward and won't help them grow into being competent and successful adults. I can empathize with them feeling that desperate clawing feeling of needing to grow as a person and can sympathize with seeing transition as a means to put their foot down and start asserting a sense of self around adults who fail to grasp what adolescence is.*

But that stops the minute I remember there are actual gay teenage boys these little shits go to school with that have to put up with their harassment, that have to put up with them infesting the one (if any) age appropriate space for a gay teenager to be in to find other same-sex attracted peers, etc. I didn't start the GSA in my high school for it to lead to future gay and lesbian teenagers being the punching bags of these straight kids.

*While writing this, I realized that I feel that puberty blockers are poetically in line with the ways many of these parents are raising their kids. One stops the body from growing with long-term consequences (issues with bone density, physically underdeveloped, etc.) while the other stops the spirit from growing with long-term consequences (lack of support network, lack of a sense of self, etc.).

[–]chazzstrong 21 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

100%, dude. The fuckin' insecurity of so many cis gay men where they don't know how to validate themselves without making other people want to kill themselves.

....holy crap, I honestly cannot tell if this is a troll posting satire or if this person is just seriously blind and stupid. o_o

[–]julesburm1891 19 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

If people not wanting to fuck you makes you want to kill yourself, you’re not going to make it through this world. I’m a fit, conventionally attractive woman who’s educated, gainfully employed, and financially stable. I also like to think I’m considerate and pleasant to be around. When I was last single, I got rejected several times only going after other lesbians. So, I really don’t get how all these transmen think they’re not going to face rejection going after a demographic that’s not interested while simultaneously having a ton of other undesirable issues.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thinking that they'll avoid rejection is their first and biggest mistake. Not everyone will be into anyone. There is no human to have ever lived that every lesbian or every gay man or every whatever demographic will unanimously find attractive and want to date or sleep with. If you can't handle rejection, then you can't handle being a human living in a world with other humans. The rest of their issues only compound this fundamental flaw.

[–]Socialjustus 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Threatening to kill yourself if you don't get your way is typically a sign of cluster B mental illness at best and abusiveness at worst.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

If I have to see another, 'I'm totally okay with trans people, I'm just not attracted to them' post, I'm going to lose it.

And it's fucking everywhere. Even the bisexuality subreddit is chock full of people giving their unasked-for opinions on trans people's bodies. No one asked.

They don't ask, they TELL us all, over and over and over again, in entitled, obtuse, and often rapey fashion. Hence the prompt and regular boundary assertion. Any time a TRA says "No one" at the start of a sentence, they're lying.

I still feel 1% sorry for them for feeling body shamed, but they 99% likely did that to themselves by pushing themselves on people who by definition are not going to want them. Crack a dictionary and save yourself some heartache, FFS. This wall ain't moving not matter how many times you bang your head against it.

And frankly I am glad to hear that bisexuals aren't as much of a soft target TRAs seemed to expect we would be. Again, learn what words mean. Then come up with your own terms to differentiate, so you can find the people who want to find you.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 20 insightful - 9 fun20 insightful - 8 fun21 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

No one asked.

Oh come on sugartits, you're in /r/AGB asking every five fucking minutes and waving your lady parts about begging for validaaaaaaaaaation.

[–]ThrowMeAway2879[S] 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Tthey didn't task, they TOLD us

To be fair, they do ask. Preferably on online forums. Like clockwork. Again and again and again. And again. "Would you date a trans man?" "Am I valid?" "Pre-op trans bro, am I allowed here?"

So, yes: They do ask and they ask so often that people learn that only a no will stop the invasion. And since a simple "no" will usually not suffice, people get more graphic every time.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The same way that women think they have to have reasons to say no to straight men who pursue them ("I have a boyfriend," etc.). Like every one of those perpetrators, these don't understand that no means no, either.

But also: It's not a benign question if they have set up an implied transphobia accusation threat right behind it. It's a trap.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

"I didn't ask for your opinion so you could disagree with what I want to hear! If you're not going to validate me with the response I want then get out"

[–]pacmanla 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Then come up with your own terms to differentiate, so you can find the people who want to find you.

It's weird to me that the people that want & are interested in them, are called "chasers". But, ironically, that same term could be applied to them as well, for "chasing" those who by definition could never be attracted to them.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It all fits together, doesn't it. Except the ones who chase them apparently have more success.

It's all about self-image. They are always hunting for the right mirror. Which means the people they complain don't want them are in fact just objects to them, that are supposed to show them the right reflection (validation). They don't want to be chased FOR being trans. That's still coming from reality and that's not acceptable.

[–]JulienMayfair 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They don't ask, they TELL us all, over and over and over again, in entitled, obtuse, and often rapey fashion.

They're fishing for validation, and like with most narcissists, they are enraged when they don't get it.

It's funny. With the few trans people I knew in the 1990s, all they wanted to do was pass. They didn't bring up being trans all the time.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

all they wanted to do was pass. They didn't bring up being trans all the time.

Yes, that describes probably two-thirds of the trans people I know and nearly all of the ones who transitioned before the last five years. The ones who are not clearly "out" pass way less often than I pretend they do, but I do that for their comfort to put them at ease, since our interaction contexts have nothing to do with dating or any other situation in which I'd actually have to care, and they are kind people. So I don't let on that I am aware. The only downside to that is if they need support for something that is about being trans, but presumably they have people to talk to for that. It's their choice to try to fly under the radar, so I take that as my cue to go along with it. They don't demand validation from me about anything. And they don't tart themselves up in silly clothes and (re: the MTFs) makeup either, they just look like everyday people. They are not on parade. And those are the people that I've always felt supportive and protective of, because they aren't trying to fuck with anyone else about anything. If anything they shrink from living full lives.

That's why I hate TRAs so much. They, like all other narcissists, ruin damned near everything they touch. It is not hard to be supportive of trans people as people just trying to get through life like everyone else, even if you don't agree with what they believe about biology, etc. But I know no one who is willing to get bullied, threatened, defamed, pushed around, gaslit, etc. by anyone, but especially not anyone who also has their head up their ass about biological reality. Some things can be overlooked in polite company that just become absolutely onerous to ignore when being actively harassed about it.

I don't even know what my quiet trans friends believe and I am sure it varies, but it doesn't matter, because again, they leave other people (and their sex-based rights) alone. Some of them have partners and some don't, at about the same frequency as other people I know, so they seem to be managing okay in that regard as well.

[–]shveya 14 insightful - 8 fun14 insightful - 7 fun15 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

Cis gay men are weird af. I’ve had nothing but negative experiences from them.

Oh, those wacky homosexuals and their same sex attraction!

[–]julesburm1891 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

saying over and over that they hate me down there

Someone not liking your junk isn’t a personal affront to your sense of self. If it was, some 96% of the world is walking around hating half of the population. (It should be clear that’s not happening.)

[–]Rosefield 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So much absurd drama 😒. I would say grow a pair but that's not possible for her. So I say: Grow up. Srsl. this is fucking childish & ridiculous (and homophobic of course).

It would be helpful for Gaydens to accept that the gay men they created in their fantasy don't exist irl (same for transbians). Homosexuality doesn't obey to the rules and wishes of an insane bunch of gender lunatics. It's an innate natural desire and doesn't depend on gender identities.

These idiots are fighting against nature. It's a fight they can never ever win.

[–]Criticallacitirc 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

you'd think that gay men would be more accepting than straight men because they're part of the lgbtq... but in my experience straight cis guys don't misgender me and don't act like i'm different than them, while this gay guy kept misgendering me and acting pretty transphobic.

Lol. These girls. Men pander to people they want to fuck You'd think these "men" would realize this.

[–]fuck_reddit 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Clearly they don’t, they’re harassing the people they want to fuck and wondering why they aren’t getting any…

[–]7874 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, the fact that gays can't be attracted to women also makes them suicidal a lot of the time, you self-centered bitch.

What these chicks want is feminine guys, and they're not always gay. They're out there, I promise. But they also tend to be into the rape aspect. Sick.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://archive.ph/BAsi2

[–]JoeyJoeJoe 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The notion that a person can "identify" their way into a new biology is insane. This is the mainstream online right now. This can't end well.

[–]wendyokoopa1 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This redditor needs to like y'all said touch grass or play a video game and take a break from social media. These are the same idiots that will say people are allowed This, this and this only to tell us later how wrong or hypocritical we are. I don't know if it's the same but I have a story of my own regarding at most their supporters and the hypocrisy Including the use of their favorite buzzwords life saving. Ok I recently found myself more attracted to women then I am men and I've been active on a number of lesbian dating sites. I was also up until last night a member of two lesbian(or so I thought) discord servers. Well I met this semi clingy woman with the biggest fakest looking tits and the worst plastic surgery job you'd ever seen in your life. We're talking Trisha Paytas level of bad. You could see the scars and everything. I know myself and I don't want to touch plastic breasts not a turn on for me. Also they're beginning to notice that implants are starting to make people especially women really sick. Anyways I told this reject I wasn't attracted to her which sadly but truthfully I wasn't. I told the one discord server why I abandoned her and got hit with the gas light including how allegedly hypocritical I was for using margarine which depending on the brand doesn't even use any fake fats(becel) yeah I got into a fight and left. This whole trope of suicide and making us feel guilty for what were attracted to what our brains and hearts FEEL attracted to is becoming abusive. They want to gut themselves alive so bad we'll call a hiri kiri specialist and help. This reminds me of my mom when she'd thrown racism at me for not dating from certain areas and religions.