Gay MenThe problem of bisexual rhetorics being applied to homosexuals discussed on r/askgaybros

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[–]justagaydude123 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Sub will be banned before the IPO, mark my words. Way too much crimethink going on in there.

[–]lazy-summer-godSuper Gay[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I just got permabanned from r/askgaybros (not by reddit!) for some ridiculous reason, so I guess that's already happening.

[–]NutterButterFlutterStill waving into the void 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's always been a historically "non-moderated" sub except for spam or outright abuse. I'll bet the mods are getting cracked down on by Admins.

There's mods and users alike across Reddit who are getting hit with sub sanctions or even perma-bans lately for mundane shit, like username pinging or linking to other subs.

[–]lazy-summer-godSuper Gay[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The mod who permabanned me admitted that the original mod (who kept his presence to the minimum) haven't logged into the modmail for a year now.

So I guess the two remaining mods are having a new beginning now.

I mean, if username summons are bannable, why are they even a valid feature to begin with? I'm so confused.

[–]NutterButterFlutterStill waving into the void 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Reddit realized some time ago ... like YEARS ago ... that people could use username summons to harass people, draw them into conversations or subs they didn't want to be a part of. Like, think of how many people summon Spez for the sole purpose of calling him a tool, you know?

Rather than change that as a sitewide feature, or let people opt-in/out of summons, they leaned into "no, don't do that" only for specific subs. And they use it to demonstrate that those subs and/or their users are non-compliant and breaking TOS.

They did it to r/drama a long time ago (although to be fair, r/drama did it for exactly that reason, to stir up trouble). Reddit's finally realizing that other users and subs do it too.

There are some subs they don't want to ban outright, but they do want to punish the existing mod team or users for perceived or blatant lack of respect. If Admins manage to ban enough of the mods, then they can swoop in and install their Pre-Approved TM powermods and repurpose it, thereby pretending their site has been fresh and squeaky clean the whole time.

AGB is definitely on the chopping block. Can't be having gay men go about promoting that sex and sexual orientation are real!

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

if you are gone then alot of us are next... especially us no vagina people

[–]dilsencySame-sex community 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If people spoke of their own experiences, we wouldn't have a problem. Saying that sexuality is fluid for everyone is quite offensive to us homosexuals.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's offensive to this bisexual, too; first, because I'm convinced that there's no such thing as "sexual fluidity", and second, because it erases us just as much as it does you. It's a way of denying that you are exclusively same-sex-attracted... and it's also a way of denying that we are both same-sex AND opposite-sex-attracted, as opposed to "fluid". Really, what's happening is the erasure of sexual orientation itself. Be it homosexuality, bisexuality, or, for that matter, heterosexuality. Because this fundamental reality of human existence doesn't fit the woke narrative.

And while that's a threat to EVERYBODY (straight people included), it's a particular threat to homosexuals and bisexuals, who have had to fight to have our sexual orientations acknowledged and accepted. In fact, bi people face a specific form of this, where bisexuality is widely regarded as not even being a sexual orientation at all, i.e., non-existent-- which leaves us singularly vulnerable to the "you're just 'sexually fluid'!!!" lie. And wokesters trying to use us as proof of it (much like trans-cultists use intersex people when preaching "sex is a spectrum!!!").

[–]Hyperborea 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Am I missing a joke here or something? This feels like its just shitting on bisexual people. Its the fake bi women(in my experience) who cause these problems. If they werent faking bi they'd be pretending to be men. Same crowd, different tactics.

[–]lazy-summer-godSuper Gay[S] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Unfortunately, you're not missing a joke. I'm afraid it's a problem we have to finally face -- bisexuals spread rhetorics harmful to homosexuals, in our own spaces. I don't know if there's more fake bi women who do this, but I for sure encountered a lot of bi guys on r/askgaybros who do it.

[–]reluctant_commenter 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Its the fake bi women(in my experience) who cause these problems.

I'd bet that most of the "gay trans guys" posting on AGB are straight women... so yeah, they're faking. They're just faking something different than being bisexual.

I'm not OP but if you take a look at the thread, a lot of the top-voted comments are actually quite thoughtful! The phrase "sexually fluid" is a term that some (but not all!) self-identified bisexual people use; I think that's the "bisexual rhetoric" that u/lazy-summer-god was referring to. Here is a comment by a bisexual guy in the thread talking about it:

I feel like there's overlap and confusion between gay/straight and attraction to specifically same or opposite genders, vs people who are bisexual or some variant of that and attraction can change constantly.

My view is if someone's sexuality is fluid, then they're bi.

Someone mentioned it already as well in another comment, but being bisexual myself it is difficult for me to imagine being only straight or gay, and that can make it harder to understand what others might be going through.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So many based gay and bi men outnumbering the genderosexuals there. They’ll be desperate to get the sub banned or plant one of their operatives in the mod team.

[–]censorshipment 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think I first heard of sexual fluidity by a weird-looking broad name Lisa Diamond. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_M._Diamond

Lisa M. Diamond is an American psychologist and feminist.

She is best known for her 2008 book, Sexual Fluidity: Understanding Women's Love and Desire. In this book, she discusses the fluidity of female sexuality, based on her study of 100 non-heterosexual women over a period of 10 years. She concluded that the term bisexual did not truly express the versatile nature of many of her subjects. Therefore, she calls "for an expanded understanding of same-sex sexuality".

Those hetero second-wave feminists who didn't want to be straight came up with this bullshit (along with compulsory heterosexuality), to my knowledge.

As a radfem myself, I've asked older bi women such as my mom what their brains are like lol like how do you like dudes and suddenly like chicks during your teens. My mom said she started liking girls at 16 when she joined a feminist group in '76. I always liked girls since my toddler years.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think that a fairly significant number of bisexual people can subconsciously choose to ignore their same sex attraction and focus on their opposite sex attraction when they first start to get crushes. Bisexuality is even still not always accepted as real, in the 80s or 90s or before it was barely acknowledged as a possibility. And homosexuality was generally seen by even the liberal public as something unfortunate to be accepted because it can't be changed. Someone feeling attraction to both sexes just focussing on their opposite sex attraction to make life 'easier' was really common. There may also be a factor, especially among women, of only accepting their bisexuality after they have had children.

Then when decades down the line something makes them realise that they are attracted to the same sex as well, you get the myth of sexual fluidity. It's not sexual fluidity, it's just finally reaching a point where you are more open to accepting something about yourself that used to scare you or meeting someone you are so strongly attracted to that it overrides your previous defence mechanisms. It can also happen the other way around where someone who has historically been exclusively same sex attracted meets someone of the opposite sex they are attracted to.

[–]PriestTheyCalledHimBisexual 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I,have met bisexual people who ignore or suppress their opposite sex/gender attraction.

[–]automoderatorHuman-Exclusionary Radical Overlord[M] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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