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[–]RippoffOfLoveSStraight | Overuses quotation marks 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Transforming Tasmania, a group campaigning for the “legal recognition of gender identity, argued against lesbians’ right to single-sex spaces. Spokesperson Charlie Burton claims that “ultimately it’s denying the reality of the existence of transwomen, in fact all trans people.”

They exist, they're simply not welcome. I can't put it any more politely than that.

[–]Horror-SwordfishI don't get how flairs work 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I just don't understand the "denying our existence" argument. That's like saying, "This event that's only for black women is denying that white men even exist!" Let people have their spaces, Jesus.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These trans activists are narcissistic.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi.[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]INeedSomeTimeAsexual Ally 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Why can't trans people have a space simply for themselves? That wouldn’t deny their existence lmao

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They want to force lesbians to simp for them.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why can't trans people have a space simply for themselves? That wouldn’t deny their existence lmao

But then where would they get that sweet, sweet validation???

Which only goes to show what parasites they are, doesn't it? The tick needs the host... but the host doesn't need the tick. They need our validation... but we don't need theirs. Or anything else that they have to offer.

[–]reluctant_commenter 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing. This is incredibly messed up and I'm glad AfterEllen put out an article about it.

According to The Australian, Hoyle and the LGB Alliance intend to appeal Bolt’s ruling – which Hoyle describes as discriminatory towards lesbians: “Many lesbians feel uncomfortable having trans[women] in their spaces, because they are not female; they are biological males. We are forced to have them in our groups but none of us want to date them… I feel discriminated against by Sarah Bolt on the basis of being a lesbian, same-sex ­attracted [woman].”

Best of luck to them.

[–]Bright_paintingLoad, lesbian biologist 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Then they have to throw private parties/meetings and let them be invite only. The government shouldn't be able to interfere with that. (Unless they take a sharp turn to authoritarianism, that will say.)

[–]JulienMayfair 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's one thing I was unclear on -- where and under what circumstances these events would take place? I'm not familiar with Australian law on this subject. Does the law cover events held on private premises? Is any event advertised as open to people with a certain interest vs. specific invitations for individuals covered?

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Knowing Australia, it wouldn’t surprise me if this draconian restriction applies to private premises.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Ah Tasmania. When I think of you, I see Tasmanian devils, dense forests and unfunny comedians. And now I see politicians simping for entitled perma- crossdressers as well.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi.[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]ThiccDropkickGay 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What Bolt fails to recognize is that lesbians are oppressed at least twice over, on the basis of our sex and sexuality [..] Around the world, lesbians continue to be at risk of discrimination and violence [..] In multiple countries, being lesbian or gay is actively criminalized. Some states even punish homosexuality by death.

I was with the author until this. Lesbians don't face anywhere near the level of violence and discrimination that gay men do. I know it's not a competition but there's clearly an agenda from the author. And I couldn't help but notice that she talks about discrimination against gays and lesbians, but then carefully avoids admitting that only male homosexuality is punishable by death in countries that have laws prohibiting it.

Some states even punish homosexuality by death. This all happens as backlash against lesbians saying no to males.

Really?

[–]automoderatorHuman-Exclusionary Radical Overlord[M] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

RIP Snappy, I AM THE NEW GOD!

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