LGB ErasureA place without annoying “cis” gays: new wave of queer bars revitalises Australia’s LGBTQI+ scenes

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[–]Femaleisnthateful 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

“Queer is cool now,” Dopper says. “With the pink dollar, we’ve seen it with Pride, I’ve noticed it with Heaps Gay – they get more and more popular because queer is cool.”

There ya go, say the quiet part loud and then get mad when anyone suggests that this is a social contagion or a cynical commercial ploy.

It's hard to unpack what 'inclusive' means when words don't mean anything. Would my butch lesbian friends be welcome at a 'femme' bar? What kinds of people are she/hers and they/thems?

Anyway, I give these places a month before their woke employees start a woke mutiny like they're doing in the U.S.

[–]INeedSomeTimeAsexual Ally 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There ya go, say the quiet part loud and then get mad when anyone suggests that this is a social contagion or a cynical commercial ploy.

Can't help having always a weird feeling seeing a friend of mine flooded with the LGBT merch by buying it in just some casual store. I am not even LGB myself but I have strange feeling to have such an identity boiled down to some rainbow-themed merch you buy in some store. It's a weird complex feeling because on one hand I recognize that it wasn't so long time ago when people were shamed for being just gay but seeing the explosion of commercial products centerred around it feels so cynical (appropriation?). Also why something as simple as being gay needs a whole bunch of merch like some big popular music band or brand? I don't know what to feel about this. I smell a strong cynical scent of capitalism joining a trend and turning being non-straight and trans into a shallow product to sell.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I guess maybe it means something to people (like me) old enough to remember when this was truly unthinkable, you know? Generally-available LGB merch-- not restricted to either just one lonely shop in college towns, or "gayborhoods" in big cities such as San Francisco, NYC, and the like. Plus, gotta say: merch specific to bi people is still pretty thin on the ground! Sure, we get a certain amount of stuff... but it's dwarfed by the rainbows (and the goddamn trans colors, of course). No point marketing to us, I suppose, given that we don't exist and all!

So, while getting acknowledgement from the capitalist machine does mean something to me... I'm in agreement with you insofar as: it ain't much.

[–]fuck_reddit 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don’t think it’s appropriation because we don’t own the rainbow, but it certainly is cynical. Companies use the rainbow (and chevron) as a “brand” to get fools to buy their products.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah[S] 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

I presume you’re referring to amusing clusterfuck

[–]Wanderingthehalls 16 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

That was followed up almost immediately by Doc Marie's lesbian bar in Portland. After literally one night, the workers demanded ownership be handed over to them. It closed.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I just read about this one. These oppresshun mutinies are occurring so frequently now and the demands and the acquiescence of them is so similar that they kinda blend and I thought these were the same incident.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yuppers.

[–]MBMayfair 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Holy crap I just checked in on that and it's even worse (better?) now! 🤣 I love how the mother of one of the owners (who's part owner herself) has absolutely no qualms whatsoever about saying "Aw HELL naw!!" to these workers (excuse me, "comrades" 🙄) who are demanding they turn the business into a co-op. And now the mom has straight up just listed the building for sale instead of putting up with this delusional bullshit. 🤣

[–][deleted] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If they want to have queer bars or whatever bullshit have at it. Just leave us and our spaces the fuck alone.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah[S] 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They can’t and never will because they are literally parasites and cannot exist without sucking the lifeblood of others.

[–]Hannibalboy93 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes have all the trans people go there away from the "cis" gays

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 10 insightful - 8 fun10 insightful - 7 fun11 insightful - 8 fun -  (2 children)

Nasty puts queer First Nations people on the door free and has a structured ticketing system, so the less money you have, the less you pay.

I identify as broke

[–]Athelhilda4Questioning 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What’s to stop someone from taking advantage of the system by pretending to have less money than they do?

[–]fuck_reddit 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Racial discrimination is good if it helps the good race. /s

[–]Hannibalboy93 10 insightful - 7 fun10 insightful - 6 fun11 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

RIP GAYS, I AM THE NEW GOD LGBTQIAABCDEFGHIGRIFT

[–]reluctant_commenter 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, please drop those "cis gays" and give us some space. #DropTheLGBFromT if we need to frame it from their perspective in order to get the message across, we should.

It’s run by queers, for queers, and the crowd is appreciative.

Fucking homophobes. Well, it's on permanent record that the Guardian is happy to use the q-slur in 2022. To play along with straight people who are playing gayface. God, I'm so sick of postmodernism.

[–]fuck_reddit 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

We should start our own pages called “TDropTheLGB” and encourage this from both sides to speed things up lol.

[–]DimDroog 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

“The queer scene in Naarm [Melbourne] is pumping now,” says Lipschitz. “I think that there’s a really nice point where lots of people are pretty comfortable, excited about their queerness.”

What does that mean, excited about their "queerness"?

They're so childish and self centered.

It's all about looking and acting differently, only they all look alike, and think alike!

They really are homophobic too, nasty people.

Good, go away, leave the gays and lesbians alone.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

everyone feels welcome.

Lol...

[–]Hannibalboy93 8 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Nasty puts queer Nations people on the door free and has a structured ticketing system, so the less money you have, the less you pay." Laughs in Maleficent

[–]Virginia_Plain 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm good with this.

[–]automoderatorHuman-Exclusionary Radical Overlord[M] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

RIP Snappy, I AM THE NEW GOD!

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[–]LesbianManiactransphobic lol 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yet another club for straight people, like they do not have them everywhere. except now they say it is revolutionary.