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In-between moments of righteous activism, we all have lives we attend to. What did you do last week, or what are your plans this week? Watching any good movies or shows? Go on any dates? Struggling with, or achieved, any major life goals? Survive any alien invasions?

Do you want to promote a new sub, or discuss topics that otherwise get removed? Do you want to introduce yourself, but are feeling too shy to make your own post?

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[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I stopped talking to my former pro trans ideology friend and I feel great about it :) We didn't had any conversation about the subject, I just, stopped responding or engaging conversation with her. I don't even feel sad and I thought I would be way more upset about it but, if anything, it's better for the both of us. I can't have a meaningful relationship with someone who believe in gender ideology or try to minimize the pain it causes.

I've met new people online, because that's part of my hobby. I know they're on board with the trans thing, as usual and that they'd ditch my ass so fast if they knew what I thought of all this shit. But at this point I'm used to it. I can trust no one. Maybe I need a new hobby that involve really no discussions with other people, I'm tired of getting hurt and feeling like a wolf in disguise.

Other than that, I started going to the gym regularly. When I'm upset, I just go there and exhaust myself.

I want to be a way less angry person, but it isn't working very well. I'll still try my best :)

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Did your former friend know about your contrary beliefs? If not, is she the retributive type that you would not feel “safe” if she knew about your contrary beliefs?

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

She knew but didn't really approve so we didn't talk about it too much. She still tried to make me meet and talk to her trans friends, to make me understand that they're "nice people" too. Which absolutely didn't work. I just felt awful because they kept trashtalking "evil terfs" and say that they were homosexual when they were just really females dating males. Just heterosexual pretending to be "queer". It was infuriating and I kept all my anger for myself, so obviously I couldn't be by her side anymore. It was meaningless.

[–]Tikiri 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

GOOD for you! I haven’t spoken to any of my SJW/TRA friends for some years now, and I don’t miss them. I do hope I can be part of a friend group again, but not at the expense of my sanity.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wish that for the both of us !

[–]reluctant_commenter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I know they're on board with the trans thing, as usual and that they'd ditch my ass so fast if they knew what I thought of all this shit. But at this point I'm used to it.

I'm tired of getting hurt and feeling like a wolf in disguise.

Sorry, I know this post is way old but just wanted to say... good god, I relate to this.

That's cool you're going to the gym more often :) hope it helps. I do a lot of walking when I'm really angry.

Hope you're doing well otherwise. This stuff is rough.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm responding late myself so don't worry

So sorry that you relate to this shit, it's hard to trust people in general but putting that on top of everything is just the icing on the cake. But we'll manage, I'm almost sure we'll come across people that understand us (even tho I said I can trust no one because I was upset).

Working out actually helps more than I thought, in the long run I feel a little bit less angry by being more active and eating more properly, still not getting over how dumb this whole situation is but at least I'm getting in shape haha

Thank you btw, hope you're doing well too and that you're holding on at work, take care RC

[–]Tikiri 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

I’m late for this but - WHAT is going on now with Kiwifarms??😳

[–]NutterButterFlutterStill waving into the void[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Crazy, right!!! From what I've been able to gather:

  • A terminally online trans woman (Keffals) went off the rails and got a naturally formed lynch mob sicked on him for his behavior
  • KiwiFarms users doxxed him multiple times
  • Keffals turned everything and everyone into a social media lynch mob towards KF on Twitter and Twitch
  • KF was defended by Cloudflare
  • Some sleeper agent users started fedposting on KF
  • KF got dropped by Cloudflare
  • KF / Josh / Null is now hosting wherever the hell he can, and calling out the hypocrisy so the lynch mob tides can start turning towards big tech and social media

I haven't been able to catch up on much else, but hope that helps.

[–]Tikiri 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you! I wanted to join there (had been reading there for some time), but was afraid of being doxxed or worse as I’m not really tech-savvy. I truly hope it gets back online.😕

[–]reluctant_commenter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Some sleeper agent users started fedposting on KF

What does this mean? (Sorry, I know this post is from ages ago, lol; catching up.)

[–]NutterButterFlutterStill waving into the void[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I dont remember where I first heard the term, but "fedposting" is when someone purposely makes comments/posts to draw the attention of the authorities. Like making bomb threats, or threatening the president, or sharing CP. Illegal things that normal people would never do on a public forum.

It can also be used to refer to a federal agent posing as a normal user and doing those things to draw others in (honeypot). But I most often hear it used the other way.

[–]reluctant_commenter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Gotcha, thanks. I'm well aware of that behavior, just didn't know it had that name.

[–]MoutonelectriqueBland Straight ♀ 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Keffals and his sad little cult happened. While I disagree with a fuckton of things on KF, they've been very good in neatly putting all the evidence of several horrific trans identifying people and TRAs together. Bardfinn, thingie in the morning, that godafwul Irish Yeet the Teet butcher, Keffals...

Also, it seems Cloudflare used A DIFFERENT SITE as an argument to block KF, which is... Lolwhut? Anyway, KF is currently down again, the mirror I mean, and Null has a family emergency.

KF may fall (this sounds so incredibly stupid to begin with) but what Keffals and the cult doesn't realise, is that in itself is not a victory. Not only will similar sites appear and is most of the bullshit archived (bullshit they themselves posted online... Internet doesn't forget that easily), they will always fail offline. People still know your birth sexe, people are growing tired of the constant whining and bitching and cultlike behaviour and most people DO get outside and touch grass. Or pavement, whatever. TQ+ isn't that important for most people in their daily lives. They're fucking loud online but in the end: it's a rather small group. Most people have different things to worry about.

[–]Tikiri 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Do you think it will really be done for good? Trying to be the eternal optimist, sigh.

[–]MoutonelectriqueBland Straight ♀ 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Josh is one determined weird fucker, so I don't think this the end of it. It's still online via TOR.

[–]reluctant_commenter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

KF may fall (this sounds so incredibly stupid to begin with)

Lol. Your wording made me laugh, but as stupid as that phrase may sound, the pattern of sites like this getting shut down for dissenting against trans ideology is actually incredibly discerning. I think it's safe to say that many of us, most of us even, can't observe simple facts ("men can't turn into women" and vice versa) out loud for fear of losing our jobs or being harassed or socially shunned. So when even our online sanctuaries start getting censored and destroyed... it's chilling. Practically speaking, there isn't free speech on this topic.

[–]MoutonelectriqueBland Straight ♀ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I do agree it is worrying, don't get me wrong there. But I still believe the fear mongering some fell into (like someone believing the FBI arrested Josh? That was fucking weird) doesn't help.

What has been a problem for years, is stupid journalists claiming something is nEwS when three people on twitter say something. It is absolutely insane how trans became trending to begin with.

KF still isn't down, it is wonky as fuck but it is still there, so is Ovarit, mumsnet, we... It's not easy or fun. But all the info is still out there and the tide seems so be so ever slowly turning.

That being said: I need to stay optimistic.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Mirror

[–]Tikiri 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Thanks! Doesn’t load for me unfortunately. But will keep trying!

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Oh, sorry; it seems to be down. Was working yesterday..

[–]Tikiri 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Will keep trying!

[–]MoutonelectriqueBland Straight ♀ 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Perhaps it is just me as my own health is bitching a bit but I'm getting real tired of the fear mongering online. I've read that 'Josh might be arrested by the FBI' (What?), 'KF is definitely over', 'THEY WILL COME FOR US SOON', Panic, panic! P A N I C. KF is currently down as Null did something with the webserver but whatever, it worked on TOR and probably will soon because that man should sleep but doesn't. Josh, if you ever read this: What the fuck, man? Take care of your personal life first and get some fucking sleep. Regards, a liberal terf. Apparently. I don't even know.

Keffals/Fukkels/FAUXFARTMAN or one of his minions already said on twitter that fear is the best option. (Screenshot was on KF and I will not check twitter) Fear works. For them, not for us. Because underdog or something. I'm old enough to still think 'yeah, it is just the internet.' We are not really in the trenches being attacked with mustard gas, there's a whole goddamn world OFFLINE and with more urgent and pressing matters. We should be worried about kids getting groomed, the rapey rhetoric and what the fuck not, don't get me wrong there. There's a problem. We know that. We've known that for several years. But the full-on PANIC! mode is not helpful and seems more hysterical than your average RuPaul drag race episode.