Site_rly_sux is a gish galloping troll that just wants to waste your time - don't engage

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-22T05:45:28+00:00

he will tell you that they have in their possession early versions of the Quran I don't know where they have them but if he said they have them they have them.

You're saying that it's one of these early versions that has that story as you tell it?

How did you read that version?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-22T05:28:14+00:00

We have people like you to thank for this.

Because I influence the political power of gangs in ... Sweden?

The solution is obvious of course, mass deportations.

There's economic reasons why the west is allowing immigration. Natural increase is negative, and we're going to need some more working age taxpayers in the decades to come. So you're going to need to be discerning with your deportations.

But maybe there's a way that once you get your teenager who has committed these crimes to turn in the people who recruited them, then you can lock them up. Or send them to the Trump campaign where they'll fit right in.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-22T05:23:32+00:00

Bear in mind, Leonardo was certainly a homosexual pedophile.

Okay, you're going to have to explain your certainty on that.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-22T04:57:12+00:00

It depends which version of the Quran you're looking at..

Which version has the story as you tell it?

It was written by men.

As opposed to women? Or as opposed to some other animal that you're proposing has achieved literacy?

Notice that you didn't question the fact that Muhammad took this girl as a sex slave.

I can't find any reference that Zaynab bint Al-Harith was taken by Mohammed (or anyone) as a slave.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-22T04:46:03+00:00

chimeras aren't technically even one person

They're one person. They have one body. They have one mind. They have one birth certificate. They occupy one physical space. There's no sensibly way to call them two people.

I'm trying to get you to look at the bigger picture here instead of these lame-ass "gotchas" you're lobbing at me.

Good that you agree that you're wrong about your claim that "Intersex people are still either one sex or the other".

An intellectually honest person would just say so, instead of saying that counterexamples are "lame-ass". But we have to work with who we are. I think we've made progress.

We're talking about a small minority of people when we talk about transexuals. If by "trying to get you to look at the bigger picture" you mean ignoring the edge cases, you're trying to rule out the only cases we're talking about.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-22T03:59:27+00:00

You can twist scripture to mean what you want it to mean, regardless of what you want it to mean.

To a certain extent. Scripture is certainly inconsistent, so to extract meaning from it, you have to negotiate with it.

But there's nowhere in the bible that speaks against abortion, so there's no way to negotiate that out of it. Well, no honest way.

God knew us as people before we were born

No, he knew Jeremiah before he was born, and ordained him as a prophet to the nations.. (Before he was conceived for that matter). Jeremiah was exceptional. Other prophets were called when they were adults.

and he hates the killing of innocent people.

Right. But he does not say that a fetus is a person. On the contrary: The penalty in Exodus 23 for causing a miscarriage is a fine, whereas the penalty for causing a death is death. The difference is dramatic.

Q.E.D. abortion is abominable and people who support it would do themselves a favor if they sucked on a shotgun instead.

There's no passage that suggests either. The bible does not say or suggest that abortion is abominable, and shotguns didn't exist when the bible was written.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-22T03:31:58+00:00

Muslims hate Jews, because the prophet Muhammad was poisoned by a Jewish lady that he had taken as a sex slave.

Close.

The only errors are the first bit where you claim that the story does that Muhammad was poisoned. He spat the poison out, because it tasted bad.

And in the second bit where you claim she had been taken as a sex slave. She was holed up in the fortresses of al-Khatiba, with a stack of other civilians and treasures, but had to negotiate a surrender, because the Muslims had cut off their water supply. It was during those negotiations that the attempted assassination occurred.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-22T02:21:02+00:00

Here's a deeper dive on the section of Exodus 21, which is the only part of the bible that compares the value of the life of a person and a fetus.

-From Episode 23: Exodus 21:22–23 & fetal personhood

The audio for the whole episode is here: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5WlhBUlnip45TCcsWdM2HN

You know, if you're interested in an informed break-down of what the bible says.

You're welcome to make up your own shit, but that doesn't make you right ... quite the opposite.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-22T01:01:50+00:00

I take it from your avoidance of the question that you accept that you're mistaken about your claim that "Intersex people are still either one sex or the other".

Now we've established that not everyone is either male or female we can look at this claim: "nothing you say can ever change the fact that a male can never be a woman and a female can never be a man."

Because now we accept the edge cases where what a man or a woman is is not well defined. In that this claim too appears inadequately nuanced to apply to everyone. People who are not well defined may well be incorrectly put on the less appropriate box at birth, and therefore should change when their true gender becomes apparent.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-21T23:54:12+00:00

Just so people know, the answer to "What if I said that God hates abortion"?

The answer is, there's not one syllable in the bible that says that. So that's from you, not God.

Does the Bible Take a Position on Abortion?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-21T23:33:49+00:00

I looked at his most recent page of comments, and can't find one there that would qualify as "gish gallop".

The idea of a gish gallop is to raise a large number of wrong points all at once.

On the other hand your most recent response to him is "LOL".

The one before that is "You can gish gallop dese nuts fuckface".

At least one of you is not trying to have a real conversation, but you might be accusing the wrong one.

Edit, FFS, the one before those two are:

"Hey look everyone, it's one of those shills. How much do they pay you at your troll farm?"

Your "don't waste your time" meter is broken. You need to block yourself and disengage.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-21T22:39:25+00:00

Do you mean not all of them are?

Because what you've written means that all of them aren't, and there's no data to support that. It would be yet another thing you've just made up.

In either case you miss the point.

You have said "Intersex people are still either one sex or the other". So the point isn't that XX | XY chimeras are trans. The point is that they're intersex. Which sex do you claim that they are?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-21T04:13:50+00:00

but Google "sex specificity of intersex chart."

XX | XY chimerism is the bottom row of the chart here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex#Prevalence

One of the ones that says "none" under the "Sex specificity" column.

So which sex do you claim they are?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-21T04:03:26+00:00

In Belgium since 2002, you can perform euthanasia on someone else. [E]uthanasia is defined as intentionally terminating life by someone other than the person concerned, at the latter’s request.

Other reporting seems to be that this wasn't a case of botched euthanasia though. It was when sedatives failed that the nurses tried to put her out of her misery: https://www.newsweek.com/nurses-allegedly-killed-cancer-patient-pillow-sedation-1825599

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-21T03:58:30+00:00

They are seeing a wave of shootings. 62 in gun homicides last year.

That's 1 for every 170,150 people in the population.

Which is only slightly better than 1/10th of the US gun homicide rate of 1 for every 16,798 population in 2022. Which is pretty bad: Sweden’s street gangs are gaining power, and the solution's not obvious.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-21T02:00:13+00:00

And while there was no loss to journalism, there's plenty of people who will pay for fake news.

So that market will still be supplied.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-21T01:42:12+00:00

Almost good.

The phrasing still stuffs up a bit. Listening to a short section of H G Well's The Invisible Man, whenever it reads "Mrs. Hall", it thinks the period is the end of a sentence and reads it "Misses. [...] Hall."

But the tune and meter of text to speech is much better now that it was five years ago.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-21T01:29:42+00:00

In November 2022, Brinton was placed on leave by the Department of Energy after being charged with theft of luggage at an airport. On December 12, 2022, after a second similar charge for a July incident, a Department of Energy spokesperson confirmed that Brinton was no longer a DOE employee.

This is what you should do when your officials are seen to commit crimes. The unethical approach is Trump's one of abusing the presidential power of pardon to allow them to continue to commit crimes.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-21T01:04:35+00:00

When a kid describes being raped in terms of someone peeing in them

I didn't know they did that. Can you link me to a case study?

That you pedos have the audacity to try to use that excuse to dismiss them is disgusting.

Oh, for fuck's sake.

That's a bold accusation in response to the satanic panic.

Are you projecting? Do you have something you want to confess?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-21T00:54:18+00:00

Bruh, some infants born with genital deformities can't even urinate or are prone to infections.

Really? The standard understanding of human development includes the fact that babies start to urinate inside the amniotic sac around week eight. So if they can't even urinate, they won't make it to term.

Why don't you publish this finding of yours that babies are born who can't even urinate due to ambiguous genitalia? When you overthrow a known paradigm like that you're in line for a nobel prize in medicine.

I'm having trouble deciphering your second question

You've claimed that "Intersex people are still either one sex or the other".

The case where this is most clearly false is a true hermaphrodite.

Which sex do you claim a true hermaphrodite is?

but Google "sex specificity of intersex chart."

XX | XY chimerism is the bottom row of the chart here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex#Prevalence

One of the ones that says "none" under the "Sex specificity" column.

So which sex do you claim they are?

Now that trivia time is over, do you want to watch those videos and see what honest and intelligent people have to say about this nonsense?

You wan't me to watch a video of a mathematician talking to a science historian who is a sex pest about intersex people? Unusual fields for that discussion.

Can you explain why you think that's a good source instead of anyone who knows what they're talking about?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-21T00:32:42+00:00

You're quite right. The median weekly rent in Cali is nearer $670.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-20T06:20:22+00:00

Which part of it explains how intersex infants would die without intervention?

And how far do I need to go in to learn which of the two sexes, that all intersex people are one of that an XX | XY chimera who is a true hermaphrodite is?

And if a visit has these answers, why can't you just say what the answer is?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-20T03:53:39+00:00

"they will knock you the fuck out and pee in your butt"...

Is that some kind of metaphor?

I mean how do you accomplish peeing in someone's butt?

Do you get an enema kit?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-20T01:40:23+00:00

it has gotten so rough that they will knock you the fuck out and pee in your butt.

What?

That sounds like those satanic panic sexual abuse claims where the investigator is trying to get a kid who's never been sexually assaulted and doesn't know what sexual assault is to describe their sexual assault.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-20T01:36:05+00:00

Median weekly after tax salary is $1067 in Cali.

$300 isn't a hell of a lot. But it might stop crimes of desperation. And it's a more reliable boost to the economy than tax breaks for the rich.

That's enough for dope, gas money, food, and a night out every week.

~~Average~~ Median rent in Cali is ~~$400~~ $670 per week. These people will probably keeping their families in less than average priced accommodation, but they'll still be cutting back on the sort of food they're eating.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-20T01:00:52+00:00

Do you need a definition of labor supply elasticity, or do you not know what the Laffer curve is, despite commenting that tax cuts increase the tax base?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-19T07:13:26+00:00

Totally insane nonsense, of course.

All right, lets see it.

Democrats bought the Covid election with your tax money and still had to do a bunch of shady shit to win.

...

Yep.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-19T04:25:58+00:00

Why does inflation matter?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-19T04:23:50+00:00

I'm not sure labor supply elasticity is as high as you think it is.

Aren't figures in the 0 - 0.3 range? They were about a decade ago.

Which would put maximum tax revenues in the high 60s in % of gross labor income.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-18T20:30:41+00:00

My meaning is that "list of suicides" isn't really what that page can attempt to be.

And my maths is wrong above. About 10 per 100,000 living people die by suicide, not 100,000 deaths. The number is probably 2 orders of magnitude too low.

Many hundred thousand people die by suicide every year.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-18T04:18:37+00:00

If 109 billion people have died, and current estimates of 10.5 people per 100,000 on average die by suicide extrapolates back in time, then this list of 1300-odd people is probably light by about 11,000,000.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-18T03:13:01+00:00

JustPearlyThings!

The knowledge fight guys did an episode about the time she interviewed Alex Jones, having done no research except watching his Joe Rogan interview.

Hilarious, if you like dark humor.

https://knowledgefight.libsyn.com/841-like-a-pearl-before-a-swine

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-18T03:01:32+00:00

So what have we learned about why your saying wrong stuff?

You've given no sources, so we must assume you're making it up yourself.

A lot of it is so wrong that anyone with a passing interest in biology could identify it as wrong. Such as "yes, a lot of these intersex infants would die shortly after birth without medical intervention." You claim to be a biologist, so either you know you're lying and are trolling, or you are falsely claiming to be a biologist.

My guess is that you feel you're very intelligent, and made up the but about being a biologist, because you don't feel you're lack of academic achievement gives you the respect you deserve when trying to convince people of wrong stuff you made up without checking any science.

But you could be a troll.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-18T02:30:46+00:00

no one was armed

There were some people with guns Mark Mazza and Christopher Alberts to name two. Lonnie Coffman was stopped a couple of blocks away with a handgun, a rifle, a shotgun, hundreds of rounds of ammunition, a crossbow, eleven machetes, a stun gun and a cooler containing eleven mason jars with holes punched in the lids containung a mixture of gasoline and Styrofoam. Insurrectionists had other weapons including stun guns, pepper spray, batons, baseball bats and flagpoles wielded as clubs.

Michael Foy attacked police with a hockey stick, and with some kind of spear.

I hold out hope that they will find the person with the pipe bombs.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-18T02:07:05+00:00

nobody really thinks that intersex conditions are anything other than birth defects

Nobody huh? Did you ask everyone yourself?

regardless of what the diversity hire at WebMd.com wrote.

What's your personal new-and-improved definition of "intersex"?

There's no basis for selective pressure in these individuals

I certainly agree that they mostly don't have children. Some do though.

yes, a lot of these intersex infants would die shortly after birth without medical intervention.

Oh, really?

Define "a lot". More than 50%?

Intersex people are still either one sex or the other,

Which sex is an XX | XY chimera who is a true hermaphrodite?

"Trans" people aren't chimeras.

You've searched the literature and found 0 case studies of transexuals with chimerism? Can you link me to the review?

There's no biological basis to find, these people are gay, autistic, gender non-conforming, fashion victims, or fetishists.

So those don't have a biological basis?

What's the basis of autism, if it's not biological?

Maybe they're happier pretending they're the opposite sex

What's the opposite sex of "gender non-conforming"?

"ok we'll all pretend your delusion is true" is insanity

Because you claim that it's insanity. Whereas everyone else is trying to find the best thing to do.

We don't give anorexics liposuction!

Are you claiming that liposuction would improve an anorexics quality of life?

That's fucking stupid. They get serious health problems because of their lack of body fat.

There are no "trans" people.

Another finding you've uncovered just with your own research?

Have you considered publishing?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-18T00:42:04+00:00

Everything that comes out of the establishments mouth is a lie. It’s propaganda. It’s corrupt. It’s lies.

I get that most of the calls weren't recorded. But there's a recording of call Trump made to the Georgia secretary of state to 'find' votes to overturn Biden's statewide win. You're saying that's a lie? Despite that the recording is not contested, and on the public record?

And the Electoral College certificate of ascertainment sent by the fake electors to congress and to the National Archives, (Where they can be viewed), also ... don't exist?

Because the public record has strong evidence of those things in particular.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-18T00:19:13+00:00

Oh good lord, you must know that you're grasping at straws with this birth defect crap right?

Again, intersex people may possess characteristics of both male and female sexes. In which case they are "between sex".

Web MD makes that clear:https://www.webmd.com/sex/what-is-intersex

What source are you using that says it's not between sex, and it a birth defect?

Or did you make it up yourself?

How about this, what about the vast majority of "trans people" that don't suffer from any kind of intersex condition at all

You're moving your position from "There are no people for who some of their body is male" to "The vast majority of trans people don't suffer from any kind of intersex condition"?

That's possibly an improvement. "The vast majority don't" is much closer than "This doesn't happen".

what's the supposed biological justification for them pretending to change sex categories?

The medical justification is that it improves quality of life, mental health, and suicidal ideation.

The biological basis is still under investigation, but the research has some candidates worthy of pursing in research.

Some examples:

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-17T10:18:39+00:00

Intersex people may possess characteristics of both male and female sexes. In which case they are "between sex".

Web MD makes that clear:https://www.webmd.com/sex/what-is-intersex

What source are you using that says it's not between sex, and it a birth defect?

Or did you make it up yourself?

"Transsexuals" aren't intersex

I already linked to the paper showing that intersex people had a higher incidence of gender dysphoria the the general population.

What's your source for this claim that transsexuals can't be intersex?

Did you make it up yourself?

that think they can wish upon a star to become a real boy/girl.

Are you claiming here that there's a belief that gender dysphoria can be alleviated by "wishing upon a star"?

XX|XY chimeras literally have parts of their bodies that are make and part that are female, because they have cells that are male and cells that are female. You've said that that doesn't happen, but accept that such people exist. Which is it?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-16T21:36:44+00:00

The question arises for those people for who only some of the body is male.

This is the part you're getting wrong. This doesn't happen. Nobody is saying this happens.

[...]

XX | XY chimeras exist

Which is it?

None of this shit you're saying has any bearing on people pretending they're the opposite sex.

Irrelevant. Were talking about transsexualism and intersex, not dress up.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-16T21:32:43+00:00

You are phrasing things in a manner that is deceiving.

Really?

In a fit of rage, after loosing a national election, it’s okay to make irrational demands.

It depends on the demands. If the demands are to steal the election, then, it's very illegal.

But you can demand that they play the theme from your TV show, and bring you McDonalds.

Biden, peloski, and John Kerry literally sold the US for money.

I hope the new owners evict Trump before he sells any more classified military information.

Not a fucking word from your guys mouth.

Could that be because you made it up?

There was no insurrection. You pampered idiots are out here playing pretend. There was no insurrection.

So the 1100 people listed by the DoJ here, ... what? Don't exist?

Again, riots for years on end, not a fucking word out of your mouth. Cities burning.

That doesn't make it legal to try to steal an election. And neither did any president call for those riots.

The questions you avoided from above:

Find the votes is fine

Why is it fine to try to steal an election by getting trying to pressure sometime in to changing the votes?

The fake electorate scheme is a lie.

I linked an article about it in case you'd been avoiding the news.

What exactly do you claim is a lie?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-16T15:14:04+00:00

Find the votes is fine

Why is it fine to try to steal an election by getting trying to pressure sometime in to changing the votes?

The fake electorate scheme is a lie.

I linked an article about it in case you'd been avoiding the news.

What exactly do you claim is a lie?

There was no insurrection, that is a lie.

They managed to delay the counting of votes only. They would have done a lot worse if Trump had managed to get the mags removed.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-16T15:06:08+00:00

In 12-17 year olds. Who don't die of covid much.

And it prevents that death, every 6 months.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-16T14:59:23+00:00

1 and 5 are in.

2 and 4 are out.

Of 3, (6,7), 8, 9 10, chuck the two oldest out, or the couple of one of them is in the oldest 2.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-16T14:41:10+00:00

Already dead fish.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-16T14:34:41+00:00

Biology and evolution disagree that chimeras even exist, huh?

Big call.

Got a reference, or are you just making these things up on the spot?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-15T22:08:45+00:00

If most of the race acts like actual animals

What do you think humans are? A plant?

Everyone acts exactly like an animal because everyone is an animal.

Look at their structure, they resemble apes more than other races

What do you think a human is? A bovid?

Everyone looks exactly like an ape because everyone is an ape.

There's groups from Europe that retain more Neanderthal genes, and that comes with a bit more beard, thinner lips, and the hair didn't stand up like in a true human. And they've retained the white skin probably from northern European Neanderthals.

But there's little evidence that they're less civilised or advanced.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-15T07:48:26+00:00

This doesn't happen.

Yes it does. That why there's scales of genitalia describing the rage from male to female.

If also happens with other physical differences between the sexes.

And it happens with the brain.

It certainly happens in the case of an XX / XY chimera.

Nobody is saying this happens.

I'm saying it happens

Biology has no part in your argument, no hard science is involved with gender ideology.

You claim, among other wrong things, that chimerism never happens?

And you claim that this is "hard science"?

Weird. Are there other established things you claim dinner happen, or is it only to do with sex that you leave evidence behind?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-15T07:46:16+00:00

There were three main phases.

The first was trying to change the votes. In the case of Georgia, his call was recorded. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-idUSKBN2980MG

The second was setting up fraudulent groups of electors. These were set up in seven states — Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, New Mexico, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — to sign certificates, that they, not the real electors were the state's electors and falsely stating that he, not Democrat Joe Biden, had won their states. https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-jan-6-investigation-fake-electors-608932d4771f6e2e3c5efb3fdcd8fcce

Thirdly he tried to stage an insurrection. This was foiled in part because the secret service didn't follow his instructions to let the crowd in with weapons. https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-weapons-january-6-crowd-dont-fucking-care-2022-6

There were other illegal activities as well, notably the breaching of voting machines, and while those activities were illegal, there were part of a not-of-itself illegal attempt to overthrow the results using the courts. I guess hoping to get the cases to the supreme court, and win along party lines as Bush did against Gore.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-15T01:08:31+00:00

If you nail a dick to a tree the tree doesn't become a human male.

True. And irrelevant.

A male's entire body is male, and that includes his genitals.

The question arises for those people for who only some of the body is male.

Where are you drawing the line in edge cases? You've said that "Of course male and female isn't defined by superficial things like genitals!" and you've said "Females don't have penises". Which is it?

Did you make up that gender dysphoria is caused by idiots telling the sufferer that they were in the wrong body yourself? Ignoring everything we've learned about treatment of the condition?

Or did you pick it up from someone and thought it was sensible enough to repeat without thinking?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-14T23:57:32+00:00

The president's son has been indicted on three felony counts accusing him of lying about his drug use when buying a gun, court documents show.

This must be the first time republicans have come down on the side of gun control.

It's good to see, but a discerning person might wonder if they favor coming down this firmly evenly, or if it is political motivations that they have rather than law enforcement ones.

Not admitting to drug use on a form to buy a gun historically is never prosecuted.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-14T23:40:14+00:00

China’s Mid-Century Long-Term Low Greenhouse Gas Emission Development Strategy (unofficial translation)

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-14T23:31:35+00:00

I'd prefer that people didn't keep repeating that misinformation.

It seems crazy to believe that it's not the fuel consumption that dominates the greenhouse emissions of a vehicle over its life. And that intuition is correct. By a long way.

So people must've been telling that story and not factchecking it a lot for it to come up like this so often.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-14T23:24:56+00:00

Genitals are a part of the package, again, every part of a woman is female.

Are genitals necessary or sufficient or both to define female?

Sex is more than genitals, sex permeates us to our core.

Which is how transsexuals exist.

There's no contradiction in what I'm saying.

Are female genitals necessary or sufficient or both to define female?

And yes, I'm aware that people without "gender dysphoria" also pretend they're the opposite sex.

I didn't ask that. I asked: Did you make up that gender dysphoria is caused by idiots telling the sufferer that they were in the wrong body yourself?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-14T10:23:21+00:00

A BEV has about 1/3 of the whole of life emissions than that of an ICE vehicle.

https://chargedevs.com/newswire/ford-umich-study-finds-evs-have-64-lower-life-cycle-emissions-than-ice-vehicles/

The fossil fuel industry tries to make a big thing out of production emissions only, to mislead people. Maybe you got sucked in by that bullshit.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-14T07:06:42+00:00

Calm the fuck down at me.

I didn't say "Real" trans people are just gay. Full stop.

And I didn't say Trans is a choice, yes. A fashion choice, and a terrible one.

What is your problem with me?

Something that MAKES 41% OF ITS VICTIMS KILL THEMSELVES isn't significantly disturbing?

Right.

But the phrase was "disturbance in an individual's cognition", wasn't it.

How can you say that?

You said that.

I said it's not disturbing OF COGNITION

LGBTQ people are more likely to molest kids

No they're not. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8008535/

Why are you lying about that? Don't you realise that misinformation like that gets gay people KILLED?

Do you enjoy innocent people being murdered? Are you sadistic or just misinformed?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-14T02:49:53+00:00

Um, excuse me, but how is it NOT a mental disorder?

Because it's not characterized by clinically significant disturbance in an individual's cognition, emotion regulation, or behavior.

No, not just a disorder, a DISEASE.

A mental disorders are not a subset of disease.

Haven't you seen what it's done to me?

Of course not, I've never met you.

Do you have any idea how dissmissive it is toward me that you think there's nothing wrong with it?

I didn't say there's nothing wrong with it.

But clownworlddropout said:

"Real" trans people are just gay. Full stop.

Trans is a choice, yes. A fashion choice, and a terrible one.

[T]here's no such thing as a person born "in the wrong body." They're gay, confused gender-nonconforming people, or fetishists.

Of all the people writing that "I hate being trans" I'd chalk it up to attention-seeking behavior, these rejects love a good pity party.

There's nothing wrong with gender non-conforming people, they don't need to be "fixed." ... Does that sound good to you? Or do you think maybe they need to be medicalized for the rest of their lives?

If idiots would stop telling them they were born in the wrong body maybe they'd be happier..

Do any of those imply that it shouldn't bother you?

To me it's a lot clearer than what I posted.

How can you glorify RUINED LIVES for the sake of "diversity"

I'm sorry, I missed the part of my comment that "glorifies RUINED LIVES", can you quote the part for me?

How can you CELEBRATE this?!

I'm sorry, I missed the part of my comment that CELEBRATES gender dysphoria, can you quote the part for me?

Are you sadistic or just uninformed?

Did you reply to the wrong comment here? Please look at the comments I link to in this thread and explain why you're issuing venom on this one.

Do you want me to teach you how it really is?

Not really. I think you spread hateful and dangerous lies, and I don't trust what you could teach.

For instance Here you claim that "LGBT people are much more likely to molest kids", without evidence. Spreading fear and hatred of the LGBT community.

If you can justify why you do that, maybe then we can talk about what you might be able to teach me.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-14T02:04:52+00:00

Females don't have penises.

Okay, you just said "Of course male and female isn't defined by superficial things like genitals!".

Now you're saying that genitals define females.

Which is it?

Sex is more than genitals, every part of a woman is female.

You've just said "Females don't have penises." So genitals are sufficient to define sex.

So are genitals sufficient or is sex more than genitals?

If idiots would stop telling them they were born in the wrong body maybe they'd be happier.

Did you make up that gender dysphoria is caused by idiots telling the sufferer that they were in the wrong body yourself?

Or is there some idiot who told you that and you didn't check the data?

And again, all of this has nothing to do with people pretending they can change sex categories.

Neither is gender dysphoria. Do you know that?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-14T01:49:35+00:00

Trump did nothing wrong.

Okay. Let's start at the top.

Why don't you think that trying to steal an election is wrong?

Most people would say that democracy and democratic rights are one of the things that's great about America.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-13T06:32:47+00:00

Of course male and female isn't defined by superficial things like genitals!

If a female has a penis they would be considered transsexual.

Similarly if a male has ovaries and a womb, they would also be considered transsexual.

So if sex isn't defined by genitals, then transsexuals exist.

There's nothing wrong with intersex people, they don't need to be "fixed." There's nothing wrong with gender non-conforming people, they don't need to be "fixed." There's nothing wrong with gay people, they don't need to be "fixed."

That's right. And part of that is that they exist.

Does that sound good to you? Or do you think maybe they need to be medicalized for the rest of their lives?

That sounds fine if they're happy. If there's a treatment that would improve their mental health, quality of live and suicidal ideation, then that treatment shouldn't be withheld.

Science based medicine. It's a good way to save lives.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-13T05:53:44+00:00

I was thinking of Navalny when I posted this here.

He is also wrong, Trump tried to overturn the election by breaching voting machines, by setting up teams of people falsely claiming to be state electors, and, when that failed, by violence.

He also kept a stack of state documents, refused to return them, and has interfered with the investigation by threatening witnesses.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-13T02:51:13+00:00

Is any of that true?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-13T02:42:40+00:00

Animals can't digest cellulose, which makes up the cell walls of plants.

So how do you get herbivores? When did they first arise, and what exactly are they?

Will and Dave talk herbivores.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-13T02:17:19+00:00

It's fine.

It's far from the highest levels of radiation in water released into the pacific from nuclear power facilities.

They're looking at releasing 22 terabecquerels of radiation per year into the pacific.

For comparison, there's nuclear facilities in China that release 60-80 terabecquerels per year, and there's a nuclear fuel reprocessing plant in La Hague in the north of France that releases about 10,000 terabecquerels per year into the English Channel.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-safe-is-the-release-of-fukushima-nuclear-plant-water/id267300884?i=1000625739145

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-13T00:57:18+00:00

Again, the scale you referenced isn't a literal scale between males and females, it only deals with superficial genital morphology.

You're claiming that being male or female isn't related to superficial things like genitals?

Do you know what a "true human hermaphrodite" is? A dead baby.

You made that up yourself?

Or are you repeating someone else's misinformation?

They don't die at birth. It's the rarest form of DSD, but account for about 5% of cases. But less than 1% of those are XX/XY chimerism, who make it particularly clear that you can't put everyone into either the box "male" or the box "female" by which gametes they produce, since they can produce both.

Modern medicine may allow them to survive, but they're still an evolutionary dead end.

You're commenting things that you hope are true? I don't get it. I've clearly got a computer, you must assume I've got a search engine.

They don't need modern medicine to survive. They don't stop existing for not being able to breed.

I can think of one recorded case of someone producing both gametes and it was a case of bilateral asymmetry which is a condition always caused by some chemical or mechanical external influence during gestation.

Is it your position that case studies that you can't think of don't exist?

As in an actual head-in-the-sand argument?

This has nothing to do with people pretending they can change sex categories.

You don't think being assigned the wrong sex at birth could possibly be related to those people who's sex is non-trivial to determine at birth?

Ignoring the link I've already provided you showing that intersex people have a higher incidence of gender dysphoria than the public in general?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-13T00:18:19+00:00

And now mankillers are the exception. Early man trained them to not to kill people. By getting all vindictive about it.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-12T22:50:52+00:00

Those aren't literal scales between male and female, only superficial genital morphology

They're scales between male and female genitals.

sex is binary and

Which of the two binary sexes is a true hermaphrodite?

determined by gametes.

You haven't thought that through.

A lot of intersex people don't produce gametes. Some produce both. Which of the two binary sexes are they?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-12T22:46:12+00:00

Thanks for posting this.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-12T22:41:27+00:00

Chimerism. Which is not a sex, but a condition.

The question is which sex is the hermaphrodite.

The claim is everyone is one sex.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-12T14:10:53+00:00

I've been really enjoying some of the episodes.

Not all of them are as fascinating as others. But i found "God's Wife", "So many Gods", and "Number of the best" particularly engaging listening.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-12T13:58:59+00:00

No, it's not "between male and female," it's a birth defect and not anything to do with people pretending they can change sex categories.

Where do you get this from?

You know how the Quigley scale and Prader scale are scales?

That's because there's a continuum between name and female.

Y-STR gene

What's a Y-STR gene? Are you taking about a Y chromosome? Or the short tandem repeats on the Y chromosome?

A single gene doesn't determine maleness

and functioning androgen receptors they're a male, otherwise they're a female,

Receptors for which antigen? Testosterone, dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate (DHEAS), dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA), androstenedione, or androstenediol?

What if they function but have reduced sensitivity?

regardless of their chromosomes or genitals.

Your claim that sex isn't a function of genitals contradicts your argument starting "Do you know what anisogamy is?"

You now claim that the kind of gametes produced aren't determining of sex.

An effeminate man is not a woman

What sex is a true hermaphrodite?

There are no "train brains."

Did you make that up yourself?

Are there male brains?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-12T07:34:05+00:00

libsyn: https://sites.libsyn.com/461142/abortion-and-the-bible

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5WlhBUlnip45TCcsWdM2HN

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-12T07:26:44+00:00

It's an incorrect reading of Revelations to think that it is about times to come. It was written to people about events in their time.

The data over dogma guys have a evidence based scholarly discussion of revelations here.

Saint Paul of Tarsus most certainly believed in it quite literally, and believed that Jesus could come back any time, and almost certainly sooner rather than later.

Really?

I thought he died around 65 CE, and Revelations was written about 96 CE. Or do I have the wrong guy? Saint Paul is called Saul of Tarsus, is there another later guy of Tarsus also called Paul?

So, what if the second coming of Christ hadn't been a fundamental tenet of early Christianity? Christianity never really takes off, it has no particular appeal. The Roman Empire falls earlier, and more completely. Islam never develops, at all. The only organized religious Empire is Chinese Buddhism, and we're all Chinese speaking Sino-Confucian-Buddhists by this time. Thoughts?

If Constantine didn't convert to Christianity, the ancient Roman religion would have persisted.

Power may have coalesced around a particular entity for greater social cohesion the way that the Yahweh cult discarded the other gods and merged Yahweh with the most powerful god El, and Yahweh's wife Asherah. Or the more fragmented religion might never have taken the same political power as the Roman Catholic Church did.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-12T06:58:33+00:00

No. It is a fact that votes were flipped due to human error, for a preliminary result.

Incorrectly totalled is better wording than "flipped".

The 2020 election has a ton of proven anomalies!

Really? Name three.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-12T06:18:25+00:00

Intersex isn't what you think it is, it's not "between male and female," for one thing

Yes it is. There are a couple of scales of this. The Quigley scale is the one that comes up first on a google.

for one thing, it's a birth defect, we don't say the number of fingers humans have is on a spectrum because polydactyly exists

Being transgender isn't the normal way of being born. Most people have five digits on each hand, and that's the way we evolved. But you don't say "Five fingered is the evolved category. Nothing can change that". The reality is some people have more and some people have fewer. And such people exist.

and also intersex people are still either male or female.

Did you make that up yourself?

And you ignore people who are ambiguous? And you ignore that XX/XY chimeras can even be true hermaphrodites?

That's amusing for a biologist.

Typically these people just have a developmental disorder of their genitals.

"Disorder" used to be defined that broadly. The reality is that there's a lot of different causes including genetics and sex hormone insensitivity.

The intersex thing is a red herring that is constantly brought up by gender ideologues, it has absolutely no baring on people pretending they can change sexual categories.

I bring it up because it has a baring on your argument "Our categories of man and woman describe these two forms, they are evolved categories, they're a reflection of the two profoundly different forms that comprise our species. Nothing can change that"

Because things can change that. So the interesting thing is that you claim that they don't.

Trans ≠ Intersex

Biologically they fit into the same category. You can have completely unambiguous physical sex characteristics and still be transgender, because the brain is also sexually dimorphic. But they're both a mixture of gender in one way or another, and Gender Dysphoria is much higher in the intersex community, so they are related.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-12T02:08:04+00:00

I don't think "lifeless" means what you think it means.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-12T02:06:12+00:00

People close to the dead should be given a little bit of leeway to grieve in their own way.

I get that if they were celebrating the killings that would be disrespectful, and I get that it could be misinterpreted.

But these are young girls processing the loss of their father. Give them a break.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-12T01:54:49+00:00

I'm way too lazy to research examples right now.

Fair enough

The meetups ended up getting covered by the AP. I could say factually they were lying at the time, not just by ommission though it's one of the first times I personally became aware of it. The biggest ommission was that there was a huge mob of extremely violent protesters there that not only threw the first punch, but also the second, third, fourth, fifth and sixth. I watched a proud boy get hit by a brick in the face hours before any of them did anything violent and none of that made the news at all.

Were these meetups on the street? Or in a comedy club?

I kinda doubt it. I mean it's definitely possible, but I actually lean slightly left of center.

So you would vote Dem most often?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-12T01:14:01+00:00

I'm a biologist.

What field of biology?

Do you know what anisogamy is?

a form of sexual reproduction wherein males and females produce gametes of different sizes.

Our categories of man and woman describe these two forms, they are evolved categories, they're a reflection of the two profoundly different forms that comprise our species. Nothing can change that.

So you don't believe that some people and other animals are born intersex?

Is there anything else that there is documented evidence of that you don't believe?

Down syndrome? Cleft palate? Clubfoot?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-12T01:07:08+00:00

Meaningless.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-12T01:06:32+00:00

CNN thinks these are "mostly peaceful protests":

What protests are those, and where does CNN say that they're "mostly peaceful"?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-12T01:05:05+00:00

AP is my go to, but they certainly also lie by ommission if you pay close enough attention.

Okay. Do you have any examples?

They have a slight leftist bias just because the journalists are largely left leaning.

Maybe you've got a slight rightist bias?

It's impossible to remove all bias from any human based reporting..

Sure. What balanced means is that there are an approximately equal number of left-biased and right-biased articles.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-12T01:03:10+00:00

None of it?

Then why did you say that you didn't think it followed?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-12T01:02:04+00:00

* AP is one one of the, if not *the*, most truthful and unbiased news sources.   
* So if you think that they lie, you've got some misperceptions about what things are true
    * This may mean you're making poor decisions in other parts of your life.
    * So you should sort that out.
* god doesn't do factchecking. It's just you and your god-given brain to understand what things are sound and what are suspect.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-11T07:26:46+00:00

The public pay their salary. So I guess their allegiance is to the public.

The point is that he doesn't have a conflict of interest by representing clients that would be negatively impacted by deals that he makes.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-11T06:26:45+00:00

Oh I've followed Richard Dawkins for decades and read all his books,

None of which he advocates the anti-evidence view on gender ... or am I wrong?

he's a fiercely intelligent, honest, and eloquent man.

was.

I recognized the assault on reality, the human condition, and the risk it posed to children far ahead of his entering the debate however.

So you made up your misinformation yourself? Or did you "recognize" it from some other source?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-11T05:26:13+00:00

The prominent evolutionary scientist, award winning author, and chair of the Public Understanding of Science that I alluded to previously and you pointedly neglected to ask about is Richard Dawkins

Was it?

Okay. So there's one person who has no expertise in psychiatry who has stated that gender is binary, (while acknowledging that exceptions commonly exist).

I presume you know that that is counter to the scientific consensus on the best treatment for gender dysphoria?

Or do you think that one scientist, out of his field is the best source on any scientific topic?

and chair of the Public Understanding of Science

He hasn't held that chair in 15 years. Back then gender dysphoria was still considered a mental disorder. We've improved outcomes dramatically since with our new understandings since Dawkins' time.

I don't really know what else to say.

Did you get your wrong information from Dawkins?

Or did you get it first and then find Dawkins?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-11T04:35:08+00:00

Not at all. Just mildly interested in where you get your wrong opinions.

So far you've offered "great minds think alike".

And named no sources, and provided no links.

So I'm figuring you don't have sources. If that's wrong link me to one.

At this stage the reader would assume you've made it to yourself.

In particular only being able to "allude" to sources is telling. People with an actual source can link to it and avoid doubt.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-11T04:29:07+00:00

This is the kind of lie CNN and the AP do.

AP usually come up as unbiased and highly factual by independent fact checkers.

If you think they lie, your bullshit detector needs calibration.

https://www.purevpn.com/blog/unbiased-news-sources/

https://www.techworm.net/2021/12/unbiased-news-sources.html

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-11T04:20:26+00:00

More like Reliable.

Mostly factual

... Or is that what you mean by "fake news"? Decently factual journalism?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-11T03:41:48+00:00

So you made it up yourself, and your basis is that all the experts are saying the other thing so they must be wrong?

Or do you have any better reasoning.

Because the world's best physicists are saying that gravity exists. So maybe you will just float off.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-11T03:39:39+00:00

LMAO

Any particular point you feel you can counter?

Nope?

Oh well. LMAO.

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-11T02:19:20+00:00

lol. Opposing mandates made one an "anti-masker".

Masks work. The reason the mandates didn't in a lot of places is because of anti-maskers. Not the other way around.

Mask mandates for the public, nevermind little kids, were stupid.

Saving lives isn't stupid. Neither was trying to avoid the situation we have now where coronavirus is endemic.

Especially not for those naturally infected.

As opposed to supernaturally infected?

What the fuck is "naturally infected" or do you claim that the immune benefit only fell to those people who weren't vaccinated and then who got infected?

Because vaccinated people who got infected died a lot less and still got the immune benefit from infection with greatly reduced risk.

Mass immigration and illegal immigration can both have problematic limits.

It's anti-migration that is particularly linked to anti-EU and anti climate science.

That's just plain common sense, not a conspiracy theory.

Temper your common sense with some economics. A world of free movement would be $78 trillion richer

Both you and that woke author love to play these weasel word games that allows you to brand anyone who doesn't go along with every establishment narrative a "conspiracy theorist" who needs to be excluded from society or thrown in jail.

Ironically, this is a weasel worded ad-hom that offers no opinion or evidence or actual claim that I made. Did you do that on purpose? Or did you think you were making a point that got lost?

ActuallyNot · 2023-09-11T02:08:26+00:00

They're unreliable and need fossil fuel backups.

Or storage.

But the point stands. They don't increase coal, oil, diesel & gas usage. It's fucking obvious that backup gas is less gas than gas all the time.

They don't recoup their initial carbon inputs

Hmm. That sounds a lot like utter rubbish.

This paper calculates less than one year for carbon payback. Are you claiming that a wind turbine won't last 9 months?

There's a few around there that are in their third decade of production, and many that are in their second.

They're not recyclable.

The metals? Of course they are.

Or the fibreglass? They are increasingly too

The cost to produce windmills & solar have made them unaffordable.

Both cheaper than coal atm

"Climate change" is a scam in the sense that we could have started building nuclear 35 years ago and solved the problem.

And other zero-emissions generation. Solar. Wind. Hydro where available. Geothermal where practical.

For 35 years they've told us we only have 5-10 years to act!!

TBF we are pretty fucked. The heatwaves have been high casualty, and the warming will continue on feedbacks for a couple of decades after the CO2 emissions stop completely.

Which was obviously false.

Funny. I was thinking it was obviously true. Have you not been reading the news for the past year?

And, LMAO, let me know when you find proof of gender spirits.

Hahahahahaha!

You think that medical science believes in gender spirits?

What do you even claim those are?

OMG, that's the funniest thing I've heard today.

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