life is worse than hell by dbdr in whatever

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Through the combination of:
1) The 'Messiah' (Pedestalization)
2) 'The End is Coming' (Just wait for it / Deferral)
3) 'Judgment in the After Life (Justice is in the hereafter, not in the here & now i.e. Look Over There!)
Christians have been persuaded to allow themselves to be tied up (mentally) in so doing, neglect their own agency for change, and thus be a party to their own usurpation.

 
Thus: Self De-Agency-fied -> Usurped - > Plundered (Note: The meaning of the linked text is changed by the context it was given in Mark. The correct understanding is through Thomas verses 35, 21:5-8, 103 i.e. re-assembled)

 
As we all know: Justice delayed is justice denied
Well then, this is more true: Justice delayed indefinitely is justice perverted
Thus shall all faith, tradition and creed be measured

 
You need to realize this though:
it's not just the Christians who have relinquished their Agency for change
- it is everyone still under the influence of:

  • the hierarchical (top-down) Paradigm,
  • hierarchical Systems - everything from fiat money to social media, and
  • hierarchically controlled Narratives

 
Christianity & these share the same function:
to mentally tie people up & make each one of us to be a party to humanity's usurpation.
 

10 minutes of "Verifying you are human. This may take a few seconds." to post a reply in over the top by sayanim_detector in AskSaidIt

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u/Magnora7 u/Zapped
Can we have a post discussing this problem pinned somewhere so that we can have accretive dialogue for iterative plan-do-check-act (PDCA) cycles to solve this, rather than endless ephemeral chatter but no resolution?

 
Edit - May 2, 2024:
My SaidIt account has been locked.
Please note that I am not associated with 'Edward' nor the spammers trying to destroy SaidIt.
I am here purely to discuss solutions - that's it, that's all I am for.
My proposals to date for SaidIt re: the spam bots do not involve web development, but to quarantine them, to free up and more efficiently use limited Mod resources, including both your time.
Having said that, I am fine if SaidIt continues as is without any changes on the spam bot issue - it is your call to make.
I just want a place to say my truth. Afterall, SaidIt, is a place to 'say your truth', is it not?
 
 
Edit - June 26, 2024:

Did Magnora7 get this taken care of for you?

 
No, M7 made sure I can no longer post on SaidIt - ie I have been censored from saying my truth
 

You know what the worst part of this Cloudflare shit is? When you click on that annoying FUCKING tiny captcha box and get the "Verification Successful" screen, only for the FUCKING SHIT to not move you forward anyway and have to reload the page just to do this annoying shit all over again. by Mcheetah in whatever

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Is upgrading to the $20/month Pro Plan an option that would solve the problem?

 
Alternatively, would you be open to discuss managing the problem ourselves - this is just one example
 
IMO people are being traumatized / hypnotized by the constant & endless "verifying you are human" process
Or, possibly inducing people into subconsciously thinking: "I hate to verify as a human"
 

10 minutes of "Verifying you are human. This may take a few seconds." to post a reply in over the top by sayanim_detector in AskSaidIt

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Here's a proposal that would effectively quarantine and harness bot traffic for the benefit of the site.
A win-win solution for all.

You know what the worst part of this Cloudflare shit is? When you click on that annoying FUCKING tiny captcha box and get the "Verification Successful" screen, only for the FUCKING SHIT to not move you forward anyway and have to reload the page just to do this annoying shit all over again. by Mcheetah in whatever

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Here's a proposal that would effectively quarantine and harness bot traffic for the benefit of the site.
A win-win solution for all.

Petition to ban captchas: by 211 in SaidIt

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Here's a proposal that would effectively quarantine and harness bot traffic for the benefit of the site. A win-win solution for all.
 

Petition to ban captchas: by 211 in SaidIt

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Here's a proposal for a trial to address the issue and minimize user frustration.
Feel free to make constructive suggestions to address the problem.
 

Is saidit getting more popular? by 211 in AskSaidIt

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They flood forums with do-nothing, chatter bots

Announcing s/Collabocracy for Full Spectrum Democracy by EddieC in politics

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Is saidit getting more popular? by 211 in AskSaidIt

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Let's do something about it?
 

Announcing s/Collabocracy for Full Spectrum Democracy by EddieC in politics

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Collabocracy is an envisioned alternative to Corporatocracy

 
The Community Reckoning Wall is where people would gather to interact directly with public servants & one another, for accretive dialogue: to discuss concerns, ideas for remediation, determine and monitor improvements on an ongoing basis based on TQM [total Quality Management] principles and PDCA [Plan-Do-Check-Act/Adjust] methodology, for virtuous cycles of improvement

 
For more, here's the wiki page.

 
This reply in the Q&A section links to a rough outline on how to transition from Corporatocracy to Collabocracy
 

Here's a mini example of how it could work in real life - starting with SaidItors
 

Billionaires are just tools. We should start using them and throwing out those that don't work. by Maniak in WayOfTheBern

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'As we sow, so shall we reap'
Let's focus our mind & energy accordingly.
Please check out s/Collabocracy.
Here's the wiki page
 

Taking a break. by Zapped in whatever

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to reset the internal clutter from too much information.

 
Consider the following:
Everyone has Agency for co-creating reality
But our World AS IS, the Few rule the Many
The Many engage with Narratives(stories), Paradigm & Systems of de-Agency-fication (NPSDs)
that the Few control - that is how the Few get to rule the Many

 
Nonetheless, every person still has Agency - to decide daily, at every moment:
Whether or not to engage with the hierarchically-controlled NPSDs

 
When someone is intoxicated, s /he is self de-Agency-fied.
When someone chooses not to be intoxicated, s /he is no longer de-Agency-fied by intoxication

 
Another example: X/Twitter censors through shadowbans and is rife with chatter bots
Those who choose X/Twitter subject themselves to shadowban censorship & bot traps
Those who do not choose X/Twitter save themselves from such usurpation of their time & energy

 
Thus:
When people engage with the NPSDs, they are self-de-agency-fied
When people do not engage with the NPSDs, they are not self de-agency-fied

 
Everyone has Agency for co-creating reality
Everyone has Agency to decide: whether or not to remain de-Agency-fied
Everyone has Agency to decide: whether or not to be Re-Agency-fied

 
When the Re-Agency-fied > the de-Agency-fied, the Few cannot rule the Many

 
in any case, discarding NPSDs, clears the internal clutter and prevents re-cluttering.

 
Peace be with you.
 

PDCA: Turn off Cloudflare; Let the spam bots in.... by EddieC in AskSaidIt

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Vote 'Nay' here

PDCA: Turn off Cloudflare; Let the spam bots in.... by EddieC in AskSaidIt

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Vote 'Aye' here

What do you think it means to be human? by LiveSavier in AskSaidIt

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Jesus said - then (and probably even now) (Thomas #28):

‘I stood in the midst of the world and I appeared to them in flesh.
I found them all drunk; I found none among them thirsting.
And my soul is distressed over the sons of men,
because they are blind in their hearts and do not see,
for they came into the world empty, and they seek still to come out of the world empty.
However, now they are drunk, but when they cast off their wine, then they will repent.'

 

Mankind has been self incapacitated and thus set himself up for plunder
using variations of the monkey trap
all of which require mankind’s willing, and often not unwitting, participation
all of which mankind has the ability to escape from - if only we choose to.
 

What do you think it means to be human? by LiveSavier in AskSaidIt

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We are co-creators - we are to co-create Paradise on Earth.

 
Please check out The (Re)Assembled Gospel of Thomas which sets all this out - this is a gospel about who we are
 

u/HugodeCrevellier

 
The Parables of Jesus were meant to be retorted by their audience.
In doing so, their listerners come to learn their Self Agency.
This can be clearly seen in the [Re]Assembled Gospel of Thomas

 
All the parables lead up to this pair of sayings - the Grand Finale:
 
[85] ‘Adam came into being from a great power and a great wealth,
but he did not become worthy of you.
For if he had been worthy, he would not have tasted death.’
 
[86] ‘Foxes have holes, and birds have their nests,
but the son of man does not have a place to lay his head and rest himself.’

 
What is YOUR retort to [86]?
Please turn to page 11 of the [Re]Assembled Thomas to check the answers to both [86] AND [86]

 
The answer to our problems: Re-Agency-fy Self for PDCA-based Co-CreatorDom

 
[Note:
Banned on SaidIt: I unable to make new posts, comments or replies. I can only edit this old comment. ]

 

What was the reason given?

The reasons given were so spurious that I think he is signalling for everyone to leave

Why does the Cloudflare thing behave differently when I'm at work and at home? by weavilsatemyface in AskSaidIt

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This place is still overrun by bot spam even with Cloudflare.
The solution to bot spam is to keep only a handful of subs that are actively moderated.
 
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results."
 
Edit:
e.g. This bot managed to post spam to comment/replies - even with Cloudflare on.
 

This is the most horrifying thing I've ever heard from a Supreme Court Justice. Ketanji Brown-Jackson is concerned that the First Amendment is making it harder for the government to censor speech. That's literally the entire point. by [deleted] in news

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Which is why it is crucially important for everyone to understand and to shift to the idea of 'Agency'
it is an innate and inalienable part of all living beings
Our agency precedes externally sanctioned rights and laws
 
The core of our problems is that everyone has been de-Agency-fied (self de-Agency-fied, to be precise) without even knowing it
Our problems end, when each of us re-Agency-fy our own self.
Else, the millennia old (self) subjugation of mankind continues.
 

SHOCK REPORT: ⚠️ Investigation reveals Black Rifle Coffee donates to Act Blue.. by P-38lightning in news

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Too bad they think of themselves as the only one and not as themselves as part of a larger group with the power of numbers, even if acting independently.

 
In that spirit, I would like to introduce Collabocracy as an idea as well as a new sub
 

Is the present system repairable, or is it beyond repair? by EddieC in politics

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The misdirection in the comments
 

The Plan •/s/Collabocracy by EddieC in politics

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The Plan •/s/Collabocracy by EddieC in politics

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The Plan •/s/Collabocracy by EddieC in politics

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I am glad to hear that the idea of Direct Change resonates with you.

 

I think it is NOT productive to cyclically repeat the same mistakes, over and over again.

 
Indeed and we should start by changing the nature of engagement we have with one another: accretive dialogue instead of ephemeral chatter.

 
s/Collabocracy is a follow up to my previous posts: 1, 2

 
I hope that you will also check out the wiki for Collabocracy.
I have formally incorporated two key concepts recently: 'Agency' and 'PDCA' @ periodic reckoning.
 
Your inputs (questions, suggestions, comments, etc) and buy-in will be essential for any of these ideas to actually get anywhere.
 

Does the decay in quality of SaidIt posts accurately reflect the decay of humanity in general? by fschmidt in AskSaidIt

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Please check out s/WritingsOnTheWall and s/Collabocracy
 

The Plan •/s/Collabocracy by EddieC in politics

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AIPAC is expected to spend $100 million across its political entities in 2024, taking aim at candidates they deem insufficiently supportive of Israel by neolib in WorldPolitics

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The only way out is Collabocracy.
 

Should GOD destroy the Earth and take us out our misery? by fschmidt in AskSaidIt

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He is going to come back ... and turn earth into a paradise.

 
Those who profess to believe in Jesus are the ones supposed to turn Earth into a paradise. Here's how.
 
"For whoever does the will of my Heavenly Father
is brother and sister and mother to me."
 

General Forum - Post Your Questions Here by EddieC in Collabocracy

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Thank you for your well wishes!

 
This sub follows from my previous proposal: 1, 2

I have formally incorporated two key concepts recently: 'PDCA' and 'Agency'.
I plan to consolidate my previous posts from s/WritingsOnTheWall for easier reading on this sub.

 
Your inputs (questions, suggestions, comments, posts) will be essential for Collabocracy to work!
 

 
Edit June 29, 2024:
u/tomatopotato
FYI:
I have been disallowed from making new posts and comments on SaidIt.
This is where I am at presently.

 

Announcing s/Collabocracy for Full Spectrum Democracy by EddieC in politics

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On the topic of labelling others, the following is a re-post from s/WritingsOnTheWall:
 

Language (words and narratives) frames mindset

  • words e.g. "Evil", "Tyranny"

Even though they appear useful to describe the problem, the descriptor 'tyranny', similar to the descriptor "evil"- is de-agency-fying as it locks in the mind - constrains the mind - giving the idea power it did not have - and certainly not solving the condition it describes

  • Descriptors like "tyranny" or "evil" that depict issues in absolute terms can set up a fixed mindset, undermining belief in positive change.

  • Framing challenges as insurmountable problems locates agency externally, disempowering collective creative capacities for solutions.

  • Polarizing or adversarial language breeds oppositional thinking instead of shared understanding.

  • Focusing solely on deficiencies defines reality by what's lacking versus untapped strengths/possibilities.

 

Fixating on the problem and not recognizing:

  1. one's Agency for solving the problem,
  2. one's possible, unwitting culpability in the problem

waters, not rids, the weeds of powerlessness and
absolves the mere onlookers.
 

Announcing s/Collabocracy for Full Spectrum Democracy by EddieC in politics

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Gobbledygook

 
Bottom line: Are you prepared to collaborate for real solutions? Yes or No?
 

Announcing s/Collabocracy for Full Spectrum Democracy by EddieC in politics

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Name calling - unproductive and divisive - is the sort of thing the usurpers want people to be stuck doing.
IF we really want resolution, we need to do better.
 

The Real Lesson from the Parables by EddieC in WritingsOnTheWall

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You:

This YouTube video you watched is no good, either they don't know what it's about or they're intentionally misleading you.

 
Also you:

I didn't watch the YouTube video, assumed it had something to do with your post.

 
Clearly, your intent here is not to engage in good faith discussion.
 

The Real Lesson from the Parables by EddieC in WritingsOnTheWall

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You:

You have every right to share thoughts. You're not backing it up tho.

 
To re-cap:
My OP: The 'Parables' in the Gospel of Thomas included 'defects'
meant to be picked up and challenged by listeners
Saying:
20:"Mustard seed? The farm will quickly be overrun by them weeds!"
57:"Let weeds grow with the wheat? They'll lower yield by up to 50%!"
[This link was also provided.]
8: "Use the right sized mesh net to catch only the big fish faster and effortlessly"

 
Once one has accepted this premise, the discrepancies in Sayings 96 and 107 will become laughably obvious.
If they still escape detection, feel free to just ask me.

 
You:

But it's good you're interested in this. Just look more into Gnosticism before falling for it.

 
'Gnosticism' is a label slapped on the Gospel of Thomas - but researchers do not agree it is a Gnostic text
I think this label is what blocks people from seeing what is right in front of their eyes.
Thus, to be able to see, they should remove what is blocking their ability to see: the label.

 
Notice also that my focus here is only on the Parables as recorded in the Gospel of Thomas - i.e. what they were intended to teach - and from the foregoing, the Parables are asking the audience to listen closely at what is being said to them - use your own senses and mind.
Does anyone have a problem with that?

 
You:

This YouTube video you watched is no good, either they don't know what it's about or they're intentionally misleading you.

 
Anyone who actually watched the video would see that it has nothing to do with either the Gospel of Thomas nor Gnosticism.
Rather, it is a real life example of how one's mindset - unexamined / fixed & inflexible - is weaponized against oneself.
 

The Real Lesson from the Parables by EddieC in WritingsOnTheWall

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Well you are here in a forum for sharing thoughts and here you are on my post and
I have backed up what I say with examples, and
this has broader implications.
So, perhaps it is you who have eyes but are not willing to see what are in front of you.
 

The Real Lesson from the Parables by EddieC in WritingsOnTheWall

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Not sure where you came up with that.

 
By reading the words and trying to match them against real life experience.

 

Why are we overthinking and putting words in Jesus mouth over this gnostic gospel.

 
Reading the parables uninterpreted and uncontextualized in the Gospel of Thomas,
I had the nagging feeling: "something is not quite right", and with just a little closer look, the discrepancies leapt at me.
At first it was one parable, then all of them.
That's how I came to the point/conclusion made in the post above.
 
I can continue with Sayings 96 and 107, but maybe you would like to have a stab at them.
 

The Real Lesson from the Parables by EddieC in WritingsOnTheWall

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Saying 8:
"The human being is like a sensible fisherman who cast his net into the sea
and drew it up from the sea filled with little fish.
Among them the sensible fisherman found a large, fine fish.
He threw all the little fish back into the sea, (and) he chose the large fish effortlessly.
Whoever has ears to hear should hear."
 

Jesus must have asked his fishermen audience:
"Tell me, what's wrong with this story?

 
A seven year-old daughter of a fisherman in the audience must have tugged at her mother's clothes and said:
"Mum, won't a sensible fisherman have used a net with bigger holes (i.e. bigger mesh net)?
That way the little fishies won't have been caught and frightened (i.e. traumatized) by the fisherman.
And, it would have been easier and faster to pull just the big fish.
What a silly fisherman.
Mum, I don't trust this guy."

 
And Jesus upon hearing this, would have declared as he smiled at the girl:
"This child has understood and spoken well. Be like this child!"
 

The Real Lesson from the Parables by EddieC in WritingsOnTheWall

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Saying 8:
"The human being is like a sensible fisherman who cast his net into the sea
and drew it up from the sea filled with little fish.
Among them the sensible fisherman found a large, fine fish.
He threw all the little fish back into the sea, (and) he chose the large fish effortlessly.
Whoever has ears to hear should hear."

 
Jesus must have asked his fishermen audience:
"Tell me, what's wrong with this story?"

 
Can you hazard a guess what their retort would have been?
 

The Real Lesson from the Parables by EddieC in WritingsOnTheWall

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Here's another version of Saying 5:
"Understand what is right in front of your face,
and all the secrets will be revealed to you.
There is no secret that will not be revealed."

 
This Saying is simply saying:
review what is observable i.e. empirical evidence ('what is before you') for knowledge; in other words: "science it".
 

The Real Lesson from the Parables by EddieC in WritingsOnTheWall

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Saying 5:
"Recognize what is before you,
and what is hidden from you will be revealed to you;
for there is nothing hidden that will not be made manifest."
 

The Real Lesson from the Parables by EddieC in WritingsOnTheWall

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Saying:
20:"Mustard seed? The farm will quickly be overrun by them weeds!"
57:"Let weeds grow with the wheat? They'll hit yield by up to 50%!"  

The Real Lesson from the Parables by EddieC in WritingsOnTheWall

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It's wrong but not on purpose

 
Sayings 8, 20, 57, 96, 107 in the Gospel of Thomas intentionally include obvious 'defects' / 'invitation for retort' for the reason stated in my post above.
 
e.g. for Sayings 20 & 57, this should be self-explanatory to support my point.
 

The Real Lesson from the Parables by EddieC in WritingsOnTheWall

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in it has two meanings, one hidden and one literal.

 
What are you referring to: the 'Parables' in the Gospel of Thomas, or the canonical gospels?
Please note that in my post - I am specifically referring to the Gospel of Thomas
 

The Real Lesson from the Parables by EddieC in WritingsOnTheWall

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Do you see the 'defects'/'what's wrong' in the 'Parables' e.g. Sayings 8, 20, 57, 96, 107 in the Gospel of Thomas?
 

The Parables of Jesus: Were the Parables for perfecting People? Or, were the Parables to be perfected by People? by EddieC in WritingsOnTheWall

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In this post, I am posing a question on the intent of the Parables.

 
The first possibility: "perfecting" people (quotes added) - the intent: to moralize people based on the dogma used to interpret the parables - locking ("fettering") them into assigned positions pre-determined by dogma

 
The second possibility: "perfecting" the parables - the intent: to elicit retorts from the Listeners / the Audience / the People: "Something is not quite right!"
Next, for the People to point out what is not right AND what should be right Ultimately to demonstrate: Agency is innately with the People - specifically for critical thinking - thus freeing them from dogma.

 
There is a third possibility I have alluded to in the post, but we can get to that once we have sorted out the first two.

 

Families in disbelief after hundreds of bodies found buried behind Mississippi jail by jet199 in PoliceMisconduct

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Logic points to this
 

My ideas for fixing Saidit by LarrySwinger2 in SaidIt

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Solving the bot problem is IMO quite easy:
Forget the front page - there are too many un-modded subs
Just bookmark & go to two subs:

  • for all the easy going stuff: (say) s/zomsvibe
  • for serious discussion: (say) s/wellbeing, or any one of the subs u/zapped mods - so that he can add mods

 

but it seems like bots are only one small part of problem here.

 
Indeed, the newer, obvious bots are just a cover for the real misdirection ---by pre-existing, regular accounts
 
because let's face it - no one here is even discussing solving the real problem:
 
We need Full Spectrum Resolution to end Full Spectrum Usurpation
 

Edit to add - to be more precise:
Full spectrum de-Agency-ficatiton led to full spectrum Usurpation
We need:
Full spectrum Re-Agency-fication for full spectrum Resolution

 
All it takes is - Direct Change by everyone i.e. Aggregated Agency:
 
Avoid the modern day 'sirens' and the 'cul-de-sacs" people are being corral-led towards
 
Have Accretive Dialogue for Sustaining Systems
 

Was "The Fall Of Man" in Genesis A Myth? by EddieC in WritingsOnTheWall

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No, I have not
 
But I have read this paragraph. ( Source)
And in reading the Gospel of Thomas esp his parables as commentary of society up to his time,
logic suggests that Hierarchy inverted his teachings for mass control.
 
The Real and Truly Good News:
Deliverance is ours to have NOW
if we would only realize i.e. 're-born' / 're-surrect-ed' / re-exist / re-become with the knowledge of
our divine essence/spirit = our Agency